weileong Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 This AP850 on use in my 2ft while the BARR is still running on my 4ft. Difficult to compare directly. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member flubberina13 Posted December 7, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted December 7, 2004 O you mean me... Model: Bubble King 3000 Internal for aquarium from 1200 – 3000 l/h 2.000 L/H air suction - 6000 l/h water pump energy 58 Watt/h Oh!!! those 'microscopic' bubbles... I simply love the BB King... and the fact that it is a needlewheel too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member typrobin Posted December 7, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted December 7, 2004 This AP850 on use in my 2ft while the BARR is still running on my 4ft. Difficult to compare directly. quite true also... maybe u should hold a private competition between the 2 skimmers... who knows? although your deltec is recommended for a smaller tank, it might just have the extra edge over becketts... Quote MY OLD 3ft!! My Latest Plan!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member AlfaRomeo Posted December 7, 2004 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 7, 2004 Tyrobin, I think you are mistaken about the capability of the AP850. That skimmer is actually rated for at least a 6ft tank with a heavy bioload. I could have stuck that AP850 into my reef and it would have cleaned it up nice and proper, no problems... According to Deltec, my Ap902 has stopped pulling out junk after a week cos there is nuthing left in the water to pull out. Its truly overskimmed... amazing rite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member alanseah Posted December 8, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted December 8, 2004 According to Deltec, my Ap902 has stopped pulling out junk after a week cos there is nuthing left in the water to pull out. Its truly overskimmed... amazing rite? hmm I dont find that right leh... well true for the fist 1-2 weeks that it skim out more.. cause maybe your old skimmer is not doing well enough but even after that your water is so call "clean". The skimmer should still continue to skim out skimmate maybe not that black but at least gd enough skimmate cause no matter how your bio-load is forever there.. and there is forever on going of adding DOC in the water.. unless u say u totally remove all your fish and never feed anything anymore.. else these claim I will not totally agree to it.. Even my BK up to now still continue skim out lot of skimmate.. even I reduce my feeding by 3/4 which is alot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 My AP850 on my 2ft also skimming non-stop. The skimmate seems to get darker yesterday after I washed the collection cup. I think probably Alfa's AP902 not completed broken in yet. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member AlfaRomeo Posted December 8, 2004 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 8, 2004 I washed my collection cup last nite and today found about 1cm worth of dark skimmate in the cup... have adjusted the skimmer to produce wet skimmate too... we will see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member alanseah Posted December 8, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted December 8, 2004 I washed my collection cup last nite and today found about 1cm worth of dark skimmate in the cup... have adjusted the skimmer to produce wet skimmate too... we will see how it goes. now this is something... yup go for wet skimmate so that all your skimmate wont suck at the neck and reduce the performance.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member AlfaRomeo Posted December 12, 2004 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 12, 2004 After 2 weeks of using the amazing skimmer, I am totally satisifed with the performance of the skimmer for its $. Its very apparent that the skimmate produce after 1 week is much less than when it was first switched on. This is probadly due to the tapering levels of proteins/nutrients?DOCs in the water cos of the effectiveness of the skimmer Eg. Day 2 (After breakin) - 10% of DOCs in the water column Day 4 - 8% etc etc until Day 7/8 - 4% left The Skimmer's threshold is at 4% so it will stop skimming until the level of DOCs inceased from 4% where it will kick in again (increased when fish poo/feeding etc etc) Numbers mentioned above are totally for illustrations only. Logical? I think so. The above theory also lends itself to the observation that if Skimmer A and Skimmer B is put online in the same system, the more efficient skimmer will shut down the other i.e Skimmer A threshold is at 6% and Skimmer B is at 4% , when the water is at 4% level, Skimmer A will shut down and will stop removing nutrients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member AlfaRomeo Posted February 3, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 3, 2005 Just an Update: After 2 months of running the Deltec Skimmer, its safe to say that its a kick-###### top of the line skimmer. Tuning was only needed during the first 2-3 days to get the kind of wattery skimmate that I wanted and its set and forget!. The rest of the 2 months is purely just cleaning the collection cup every 2 days and nuthing else! Very stable foam head and no constant readjustments needed after every cleaning etc etc. Two Thumbs up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Like to add that cleaning the collection cup is sooooo easily.. twist and turn and remove.. then off to the toilet, flush then back all within a minute No tunning is required after firing up again. Must see who holds the fastest record of cleaning the collection cup. AP1003 come come come Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member riot Posted February 3, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted February 3, 2005 Hey, I wonder how the deltecs stack up against the HS? MAin reason is that currently no easy to find a deltec dealer in town. A similar system is the HS- distributor is SL. Easier to get support from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 EAN is the deltec distributor in town. Yeah I know in the past got delivery problem but now Edmund going to keep stock Check out with him. Prices are lower than you get from German online websites. Don't talk about skimmer comparison, too sensitive, leads to a lot of problem Buy and use, can keep your tank nutrient levels low then good already. If current sized too small then go for next sized. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member weisoon Posted February 5, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted February 5, 2005 WL Price still the same leh if you compare both sides. Got mine from Germany before the price increase. Maybe after price increase, then slightly more expensive. Increase is only very slight....only Euro$100 for the AP1003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member planetg Posted February 5, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted February 5, 2005 WL, for a hardcore reefer like u, how abt adding/modding a 'auto-cleaner' will save u trouble from rushing to toilet every 2 days and gives u time to pump the zeovit reactor more times! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 EUR$100 is already S$200+ already. We still need to pay GST + bare the risk of any damage while the skimmer in in transit. Moreover now EAN prices are lower so there is really no goods reason to buy from online shop any more. The auto-cleaner requires freshwater supply to clean the neck too, it also needs a drainage system to flush away the skimmate, I think end up too troublesome. Moreover the AP850 and small models all don't have SCH avaliable. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member AlfaRomeo Posted February 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 7, 2005 Go Deltec Go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member AlfaRomeo Posted February 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 7, 2005 The SCH is really an option for those who have the necessary plumbing. With it equipped, you dunt have to do anything on a daily or weekly or even monthly basis! A truly set and forget skimmer! Bad part is that the SCH cost as much as a skimmer!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Still need to adjust the brushes to ensure it is cleaning the neck properly. Perhaps once in a month. Good for pple always on the move like me but pocket don't allow Too many hobbies and too little time + money. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member AlfaRomeo Posted February 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 7, 2005 Any Idea how much Edmund is selling it for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Me aren't no walking price list of deltec. Give him a ring. Know liao don't tell me pls... end up having to upgrade skimmer lol. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member AlfaRomeo Posted February 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 7, 2005 Me aren't no walking price list of deltec. Give him a ring. Know liao don't tell me pls... end up having to upgrade skimmer lol. No need to upgrade skimmer lah bro, You already own the best out there (considering how the other skimmers are touchy and sensitive), a Deltec! IMHO of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member AlfaRomeo Posted February 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 7, 2005 Weisoon, your AP1003 arrived yet? Cant wait to see it online! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Getting ready for foam party lol..... Can't wait to see it in action. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roidan Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Getting ready for foam party lol..... Can't wait to see it in action. wah..the 1004 not foam enough for you ah if 2nd hand one u want or not weileong Quote Advanced Aquarist (March05) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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