Quality of NSW

[diabolus]

when i start my hobby two year ago, i using mix salt (coralife) for my 4ft tank.

since than i lost huge no . of fish and coral. 4-5 sohar, 4 achilles tang. 6 power blue, total more than 100 plus, feel like given up the hobby.

dun blame it on the salt mix, why could it not be that your water parameters are not up to expectations? ATs and PBTs are excellent monitors of your water parameters, if they do well in your tank, you can be assured that you are having good water para. if they die,especially 4 ATs and 6 PBTs, you should have realised that even after 2 years, your tank's water parameters is still not good enough for ATs and PBTs.

what on my mine is since local fish shop can keep their fish and coral in healthy cond. using sea water, I should follow their step. give up any lodide, strontium,

magnesium. etc. do a 10% every two week (sea water) . only add Aquapharm Trace element.

How long do u think that a LFS keeps the LS in the tank? a few days to a few weeks at most, and how do you know that the fishes are healthy? did you buy a healthy AT or PBT? Wats the costs to them and to you when a fish dies?

so far my sohar and power blue is alive for nearly 2 month. and my coral is in

good condition. buble open like fish ball.

2 mths is simply not a gauge to say that your tank's water parameters is good.

IS Sea water is no good for home tank. how the fish going to survive in the sea?

just a simple and stupid question.

is your tank as big as the ocean?

just a simple and stupid answer.

just me babbling,cos cant get to sleep, no offence thou

[Ancelot]

dun blame it on the salt mix, why could it not be that your water parameters are not up to expectations? ATs and PBTs are excellent monitors of your water parameters, if they do well in your tank, you can be assured that you are having good water para. if they die,especially 4 ATs and 6 PBTs, you should have realised that even after 2 years, your tank's water parameters is still not good enough for ATs and PBTs.

No offences. I think we should keep one thing in mind that tis is a forum and we should understand that these are experiences so as the "Martial Art" theory says, to each of its own, so chill down and relax dudes!! PEACE!

but tis is only to diabolus:

I think you have a misconception that a tank with good water parameters can keep ATs and PBTs. Yes, tis concept/theory can be easily seen by a number of senior reefers here who keep them. But i also hope that you understand that a tank with good water parameters does not necessry mean that AT and PBT can survive in it. There are more than one reason tat meets to the eye why AT and PBT can survive in a person's tank.

Good water parameter does not guarantee the survival of PBT or AT. There are more.

If you want an answer abt what kind of tanks can keep AT or PBT, i will say an AT tank is one with a HUGE water volume, comparative to a 6x2x2 feet tank's water volume or more. So this is just one factor other than good water parameters..

Just my 2 cents worth..

[bestcom]

No offences. I think we should keep one thing in mind that tis is a forum and we should understand that these are experiences so as the "Martial Art" theory says, to each of its own, so chill down and relax dudes!! PEACE!

but tis is only to diabolus:

I think you have a misconception that a tank with good water parameters can keep ATs and PBTs. Yes, tis concept/theory can be easily seen by a number of senior reefers here who keep them. But i also hope that you understand that a tank with good water parameters does not necessry mean that AT and PBT can survive in it. There are more than one reason tat meets to the eye why AT and PBT can survive in a person's tank.

Good water parameter does not guarantee the survival of PBT or AT. There are more.

If you want an answer abt what kind of tanks can keep AT or PBT, i will say an AT tank is one with a HUGE water volume, comparative to a 6x2x2 feet tank's water volume or more. So this is just one factor other than good water parameters..

Just my 2 cents worth..

the reason i offer my personal expenience in this forums is becaue seeing so

many reefer given up hobby , the main reason is they don,t have sufficient time to

take care their tank (just read the pasar malam post)

i hope reefer of SRC can enjoy their hobby in a simple and easy way.

[Ancelot]

the reason i offer my personal expenience in this forums is becaue seeing so

many reefer given up hobby , the main reason is they don,t have sufficient time to

take care their tank (just read the pasar malam post)

i hope reefer of SRC can enjoy their hobby in a simple and easy way.

Oh... okie.. thanks for the input. Surely is helpful to other reefers including me!!

Anyway, I do find this hobby becoming difficult especially when you have more equipments. I do not know how many reefers agree on this point with me.. but this is surely.....

[patrick123]

IMO, there are 2 words that hobbyists need to keep in their mind before they embark on to the journey of reef keeping: (1) Patience, (2) Money.

For the (1), I have seen a lot of hobbyist just want to have a quick start, or try to stock a newly setup tank before CNY. All these effort all become a waste of time and money because the system is simply not stable and result in continuous lost of life, and frustration and the people just give up.

For the (2), we have to realize that this is not a cheap hobby. Yes, we all have read about the success story about people setting up a Jaubert system with just substrate and no skimmer, no nothing. But these are expert aquarist, or they are public aquarium that have millions of gallon of water in their display tank. Eventhough the system is simple, do you know how many chemists and marine biologists they employ to monitor the water parameter and test the water condition countless time a day? I would advise people to stop giving hope to the newbies that they can setup a small 2ft tank with just sand and rock and everything will work fine after the water cycling for 3 weeks. In reality, this does not work.

I'm not trying to say I'm rich or expert, but I have made the same mistakes in the past and I'm just trying to share my experience with everyone. It took me 9 months to get my 6ft tank under stable condition with nitrate reading of near zero. What makes you think that a 2ft tank can do much faster? Just my 2 cents.

Having said that, I do not know that NSW is better than salt mix in accelerating the maturity process, this is something yet to be proven.

Cheers,

Patrick