No. & Model of Tunze

[seamonkee]

Hey guys,

Need advice on the number and model of tunze needed for my 5'x2'x2' (water height is 1.5' with 0.5' DSB) FOWLR/softies setup....

2 nos of 6080? or 2nos of 6060?

or 2 nos of 6100??

Thanks!

[flubberina13]

got money...go for 6100...

Otherwsie, 6060 will do as you not keeping sps, right?

And how about your return pump?

[seamonkee]

got money...go for 6100...

Otherwsie, 6060 will do as you not keeping sps, right?

And how about your return pump?

I dunno what to use for my return pump because still exploring overflow & sump design...

overflow - centre or side?

So much consideration

[flubberina13]

Wan to borrow my Ultimate Marine Aquarium which showcases renowned and succesful tank systems for some pointers?

[seamonkee]

I am only keeping softies and lps in my FOWLR, if any....

so probably settling for 2 nos of 6080.....

Thanks flubberina, I have do lots of reading up... what I need to see is the setup physically to understand more...

Some of the reefers are already opening their house for me to visit... hehe...

I coming up with schematic drawings for my tank thereafter, u think u can help me then with comments?

BTW, I have an existing Eheim 2217 canister filter, thinking of using it as separate storage for carbon/rowaphos rather than dump them in the sump... what do u think?

[freddychin]

Seamonkey,

Your tank is the same size as mine except I do not have a sand bed.

I am keeping a mixed reef tank. I would recommend a 6000 stream and a 6100 stream plus 7094 multi controller.

This is what I currently have.

To have 2 units of 6100 stream is too strong. That is my opinion.

rdgs

[seamonkee]

Seamonkey,

Your tank is the same size as mine except I do not have a sand bed.

I am keeping a mixed reef tank. I would recommend a 6000 stream and a 6100 stream plus 7094 multi controller.

This is what I currently have.

To have 2 units of 6100 stream is too strong. That is my opinion.

rdgs

With my 0.5' DSB, my height for the water is reduced to 1.5'... So volume of water that needs to be circulated is actually 5'x2'x1.5',

Considering this factor and that I am keeping only softies and lps, would it be ok to go with just two units of 6000 stream plus 7094 multi controller?

Just went to eaquanature website and learnt that model 6060 and 6080 cannot be used with the multi controller... thanks for pointing it out...

[seamonkee]

Out of curiousity, because now I am factoring all the power sockets....

How many power sockets will be required for two units of 6000 stream plus 7094 multi controller?

Sorry hor... very suan ku one...

Also, I read that the 7094 multi controller also comes with a timed food dispenser also.... is it good?

[patrick123]

Seamonkee,

I also went through the same dilemma, so let me share with you my idea.

6060 is a 6000L/hr non-controllable unit (similar to a powerhead)

6080 is a 12000L/hr non-controllable unit (similar to a powerhead)

6000 is a 6000L/hr D/C current controllable unit (price is much higher than the 6060)

6100 is a 12000L/hr D/C current controllable unit (price is much higher than the 6080)

If you just want to keep LPS, going for 6080 is non-adjustable. If the current is too strong and blow up all your sand bed, there is nothing you can do able it...escept to sell it off.

But if you use a 6000 or 6100, you can control the flow between 0%-100% power (via the multi-controller or single controller). So if you get a 6100, and it is too strong, you don't have to change the pump but just reduce the flow via the controller.

If you have enough money, then 2x6100 + multi-controller will be great. This will ensure you have enough flow even if you upgrade to SPS later on.

But if money is a constraint, then go for 6060 or 6080. But for 1.5ft tall, I afraid you will have sand storm with 12000L/hr of 6080. So 6060 is more ideal.

Best Regards,

Patrick

[weileong]

6060 is a 6000L/hr non-controllable unit (similar to a powerhead)

6080 is a 12000L/hr non-controllable unit (similar to a powerhead)

6000 is a 6000L/hr D/C current controllable unit (price is much higher than the 6060)

6100 is a 12000L/hr D/C current controllable unit (price is much higher than the 6080)

6080 is 8000 l/h non-controllable

6000 is 7000 l/h controllable

You do not need the multi or single controller to control the speed of the controllable tunze stream. There is a screw at the driver box where you can tune the flow down to 30%.

[nutx]

just to share my experience, a 6060 can only 'blow' across 3ft plus.....I tried by using only one 6060 in my 6ft tank, and you can see dead water at the other end.

my preference is to have more units of 6060 and getting lesser units of the stronger flow pump.

Advantage, you can have different angle position for the pumps.

Disadvantage, you have more hardware in your tank, so have to hide them nicely. esp their wires.

[patrick123]

6080 is 8000 l/h non-controllable

6000 is 7000 l/h controllable

You do not need the multi or single controller to control the speed of the controllable tunze stream. There is a screw at the driver box where you can tune the flow down to 30%.

My apology..

Did a search on the www.tunze.com. Here is the right data:

6060 is a 6000L/hr non-controllable unit at 11w

6080 is a 8500L/hr non-controllable unit at 19w

6000 is 2500L/hr to 7000L/hr D/C current controllable unit at 15w

6100 is 4000L/hr to 12000L/hr D/C current controllable unit at 45w.

So looks like from flow point of view, 6100 is the best, but consume more than double of power compare to 6080.

[seamonkee]

Thanks...

Er... talking about hiding wires... how many electric sockets required for a TS24? Is it three? One for controller and two for the other 2 tunzes in the set?

Sorry but I never seen the physical product before, but now I am designing the cabinet for my tank, I have to factor in the number of electric sockets...

[weileong]

controller do not need to be powered. You need a 2 pin plug for each stream. For TS24 means 2x6100 with 7094 multicontroller.

[seamonkee]

controller do not need to be powered. You need a 2 pin plug for each stream. For TS24 means 2x6100 with 7094 multicontroller.

I heard the wires are five meter long! So I can stretch it to the sump? If my electric sockets are located next to the sump?

[patrick123]

You can store the multicontroller, the transformer and the aluminium box (I think is for cross connect) all in the sump, and just run the transformer cable to the socket.

It sounds complicated because there are a few boxes, but the wiring is not really that difficult. Only one power is sufficient. The multicontroller will draw power from the transformer of the tunze powerhead.

[lvcap]

just to share my experience..

mi tank is the same as urs....5x2x2..with 1/2 inch DSB

i point my 6060 at the other end..means the streams travel 5 feet...and i get very bad sand storm..

was using grade 0..then covered the storm area with grade 1....still kenna...

so i disconnected the tunze already...i dun know why my 6060 so powerful..

[weileong]

I using 3x6100 and my tank is 4ft only.... what sandstorm????

Cover the sand bed with LR then no problem already

If 6060 also cannot use then your tank still got current? Sure all the waste settle on the sandbed and LR end up NO3 problem!!!! That is what you're getting now right Gary?

[weileong]

It sounds complicated because there are a few boxes, but the wiring is not really that difficult. Only one power is sufficient. The multicontroller will draw power from the transformer of the tunze powerhead.

Just to add to Partrick. The 7094 multicontroller will draw power from either socket 1 or socket 3.

That is why tunze says you must connect your steam to socket 1 or 3 if you only have one steam

[patrick123]

just to share my experience..

mi tank is the same as urs....5x2x2..with 1/2 inch DSB

i point my 6060 at the other end..means the streams travel 5 feet...and i get very bad sand storm..

was using grade 0..then covered the storm area with grade 1....still kenna...

so i disconnected the tunze already...i dun know why my 6060 so powerful..

I think the point is not to deploy one tunze and have it blow across the tank. In this case, the sand at the far end will become sand storm.

The trick is to deploy 2 of them pointing at each other one at each end. This way, the wave will meet at mid point and create some turbulence in the middle and cancel the wave of each other.

Like Weileong's tank, he has 3x6100 one at each corner pointing towards the center.