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Hi gurus, need some advice on the above. Currently on a Nano tank (60 x 30 x 30 after deducting space rear filtration ) for 3 weeks and I'm looking at changing to a bigger tank after intense research (a lot of great experience sharing from SGReefClub), and knowing the limits of my current tank. Lot of $ wasted on the first tank set-up......time to move on....

After discussing with my wife (she's still abit pissed about my first impulse tank purchase), I think I narrowed my tank size to max 3 feet. Currently looking at Red Sea Reefer 170/250 and Revoreef Infinity 180 (unfortunately, not much user feedback can be found, except youtube videos on China reefkeepers).

Things that can be salvaged from current tank :

1. Nemo 36W LED

2. Carib Sea Rocks

Current Live Stock :

1 x Clarkii Clown

1 x Saddle Back Clown

1 x Fire Shrimp

1 x Cleaner Shrimp

1 x GSP

1 X Goniopora

1 x Octopus Branch

I would very much prefer the size of 170, but seems like a tad small, prefer not to go the custom route. Not so particular about branding for equipment. Reliability, cost and functionality are important factors. Eventual goal will be a relatively easy to maintain reef tank with lots of colors (hopefully I am not being unrealistic.....LOL)

Appreciate all inputs! Thanks for reading!

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Red Sea 170 is a 34 G tank base on website spec.

Is a little smaller the a 2 ft cube.

You can watch out for decomm thread .

I think there is 1 or 2 piece last week

 

6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08)
4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09)
5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)
2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)

5*2.5*2(LED only)

Eheim return 1 * pump

1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil
2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40,
1X6085 Tunze wm,

1 CURVE 7 Skimmer

  1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 

1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3

Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium

1 Full spectrum E27 led light

1 CR control by bubble count

Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016

Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft 

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2 minutes ago, sherman said:

Red Sea 170 is a 34 G tank base on website spec.

Is a little smaller the a 2 ft cube.

You can watch out for decomm thread .

I think there is 1 or 2 piece last week

 

Thanks so much bro. Let me go and scroll back. Lol. Maybe can save some $$$

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6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08)
4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09)
5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)
2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)

5*2.5*2(LED only)

Eheim return 1 * pump

1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil
2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40,
1X6085 Tunze wm,

1 CURVE 7 Skimmer

  1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 

1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3

Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium

1 Full spectrum E27 led light

1 CR control by bubble count

Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016

Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft 

 nLekOfpYts.jpg
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6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08)
4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09)
5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)
2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)

5*2.5*2(LED only)

Eheim return 1 * pump

1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil
2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40,
1X6085 Tunze wm,

1 CURVE 7 Skimmer

  1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 

1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3

Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium

1 Full spectrum E27 led light

1 CR control by bubble count

Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016

Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft 

 nLekOfpYts.jpg
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This is ISO tank if you think its ok

http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/topic/151474-wts-50cm-cube-tank/

6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08)
4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09)
5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)
2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)

5*2.5*2(LED only)

Eheim return 1 * pump

1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil
2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40,
1X6085 Tunze wm,

1 CURVE 7 Skimmer

  1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 

1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3

Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium

1 Full spectrum E27 led light

1 CR control by bubble count

Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016

Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft 

 nLekOfpYts.jpg
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Welcome

 

6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08)
4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09)
5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)
2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)

5*2.5*2(LED only)

Eheim return 1 * pump

1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil
2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40,
1X6085 Tunze wm,

1 CURVE 7 Skimmer

  1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 

1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3

Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium

1 Full spectrum E27 led light

1 CR control by bubble count

Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016

Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft 

 nLekOfpYts.jpg
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5 minutes ago, sherman said:

This is ISO tank if you think its ok

http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/topic/151474-wts-50cm-cube-tank/

Just one last question bro. Is there any place that takes in old tanks? Getting chump change is better than lying around collecting dust! lol

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Put up for sale at Pasar Malam like those I post to u

 

6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08)
4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09)
5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)
2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)

5*2.5*2(LED only)

Eheim return 1 * pump

1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil
2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40,
1X6085 Tunze wm,

1 CURVE 7 Skimmer

  1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 

1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3

Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium

1 Full spectrum E27 led light

1 CR control by bubble count

Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016

Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft 

 nLekOfpYts.jpg
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So far no inputs, any feedback on custom versus Brand names like Red Sea? I like the concept of full range of products and equipment to support the brand. 

Any savings for going custom? Seen a few but not very impressed with the usual custom tanks. In fact the shops i went to commented that price wise, red sea offers good value for the same specs. Im new to this so all inputs are appreciated. If possible, can also drop some credible names of tank makers.....not the atas ones please.....thanks!

 

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Will take time.

This hobby talk about patience.

 

Both custom and ready off the shelf has their own group of followers. Depending on your wants soon you will be looking at custom.

It help you to match into your envirnoment. You build according to your needs.(Maybe I should say your coral 's need)

So far for custom build I like CRA . They have good service and is reasonable pricing. 

Others I never use before no comment.

Ready made I prefer Innovative Marine. They have better and wider choice of tank design and supporting accessories

 

Look around all the build thread and you will understand more

 

6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08)
4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09)
5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)
2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)

5*2.5*2(LED only)

Eheim return 1 * pump

1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil
2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40,
1X6085 Tunze wm,

1 CURVE 7 Skimmer

  1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 

1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3

Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium

1 Full spectrum E27 led light

1 CR control by bubble count

Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016

Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft 

 nLekOfpYts.jpg
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2 minutes ago, sherman said:

Will take time.

This hobby talk about patience.

 

Both custom and ready off the shelf has their own group of followers. Depending on your wants soon you will be looking at custom.

It help you to match into your envirnoment. You build according to your needs.(Maybe I should say your coral 's need)

So far for custom build I like CRA . They have good service and is reasonable pricing. 

Others I never use before no comment.

Ready made I prefer Innovative Marine. They have better and wider choice of tank design and supporting accessories

 

Look around all the build thread and you will understand more

 

Thanks bro! Great advice. Helped a lot to narrow  my search. Sleepless nights of web browsing lol

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Relax.

Sleepless nite will blurr your vision and made wrong decision.

Remember is a hobby. 

You should be relax and enjoy your tank. Do not let the tank be your master

 

 

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6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08)
4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09)
5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)
2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)

5*2.5*2(LED only)

Eheim return 1 * pump

1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil
2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40,
1X6085 Tunze wm,

1 CURVE 7 Skimmer

  1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 

1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3

Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium

1 Full spectrum E27 led light

1 CR control by bubble count

Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016

Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft 

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Will take time.
This hobby talk about patience.
 
Both custom and ready off the shelf has their own group of followers. Depending on your wants soon you will be looking at custom.
It help you to match into your envirnoment. You build according to your needs.(Maybe I should say your coral 's need)
So far for custom build I like CRA . They have good service and is reasonable pricing. 
Others I never use before no comment.
Ready made I prefer Innovative Marine. They have better and wider choice of tank design and supporting accessories
 
Look around all the build thread and you will understand more
 


Agree with Sherman, therefore I took the idea of the IM tank and got CRA to custom build it to my requirements... save some money by customizing... it’s also because I already have a cabinet.. if you are looking for an entire system, do consider IM... nice tanks and accessories


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4 minutes ago, sherman said:

Relax.

Sleepless nite will blurr your vision and made wrong decision.

Remember is a hobby. 

You should be relax and enjoy your tank. Do not let the tank be your master

 

 

Good advice lol. 

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Agree with Sherman, therefore I took the idea of the IM tank and got CRA to custom build it to my requirements... save some money by customizing... it’s also because I already have a cabinet.. if you are looking for an entire system, do consider IM... nice tanks and accessories


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Thanks bro. If you don’t mind. Can show some pics? 

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Some updates bro. Decided to bite the bullet. For now here’s my damage today.....

Red Sea Reefer 250

Teco 500 chiller (2 months old)

Bubble Magus Curve A5

SICCE pumps 

Kessil A160WE (until I have enough moolah for 360)

Painful day for my shallow pockets.....:wacko:

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11 hours ago, Jeebusai said:

Some updates bro. Decided to bite the bullet. For now here’s my damage today.....

Red Sea Reefer 250

Teco 500 chiller (2 months old)

Bubble Magus Curve A5

SICCE pumps 

Kessil A160WE (until I have enough moolah for 360)

Painful day for my shallow pockets.....:wacko:

Hi Bros,

Still thinking about the lights, was told that if I intend to have SPS, I will need 2 X 360 at least, what are your thoughts on the AI 26 Hydra?

Aesthetics wise, Kessil wins hands down, and much easier to use, but i would really like the wifi control function, especially when Im away.   Preferably, I would prefer one light only, is one Hydra 52 enough for SPS? Not looking at the most demanding SPS though. 

Another newbie question, for dosing of supplements, do i only account for the DT water volume? Logically I should include the sump's volume right?

 

 

 

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Red Sea Reefer 250 is a 54 G rimless tank. Very close to wat I customise for a coming project.

But 250 has a sump volume of 11 G so total volume is 64G. 

Good size 

For SPS Kessil A160 you need 2. One you can only arrange your SPS under the light 

no further then 1 ft from the centre of the light.

If you going for AI 52 HD be prepare to hang your light higher. 

I will go for Radion XR15 PRO G4

Better spread and neatly

6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08)
4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09)
5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)
2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)

5*2.5*2(LED only)

Eheim return 1 * pump

1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil
2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40,
1X6085 Tunze wm,

1 CURVE 7 Skimmer

  1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 

1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3

Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium

1 Full spectrum E27 led light

1 CR control by bubble count

Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016

Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft 

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1 hour ago, sherman said:

Red Sea Reefer 250 is a 54 G rimless tank. Very close to wat I customise for a coming project.

But 250 has a sump volume of 11 G so total volume is 64G. 

Good size 

For SPS Kessil A160 you need 2. One you can only arrange your SPS under the light 

no further then 1 ft from the centre of the light.

If you going for AI 52 HD be prepare to hang your light higher. 

I will go for Radion XR15 PRO G4

Better spread and neatly

The Radion is expensive stuff lol. 2 x A160 sufficient for less demanding SPS?

I'm leaning towards anything that comes with WiFi control. Lol

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Get wat you feel is ok . Just sharing my experience

6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08)
4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09)
5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)
2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm)

5*2.5*2(LED only)

Eheim return 1 * pump

1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil
2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40,
1X6085 Tunze wm,

1 CURVE 7 Skimmer

  1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 

1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3

Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium

1 Full spectrum E27 led light

1 CR control by bubble count

Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016

Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft 

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14 minutes ago, sherman said:

Get wat you feel is ok . Just sharing my experience

Thanks for the valuable advice bro. Especially on the reach and placements of the lights. 

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On 06/04/2018 at 9:22 AM, sherman said:

Red Sea Reefer 250 is a 54 G rimless tank. Very close to wat I customise for a coming project.

But 250 has a sump volume of 11 G so total volume is 64G. 

Good size 

For SPS Kessil A160 you need 2. One you can only arrange your SPS under the light 

no further then 1 ft from the centre of the light.

If you going for AI 52 HD be prepare to hang your light higher. 

I will go for Radion XR15 PRO G4

Better spread and neatly

Hi bro, what’s ur light choice for ur 54 gallon. It’s about the same size. Price wise I’m priced out of the ecotechs.

Narrowed down to AI Hydra 26 X 2 or 52 x 1

Kessil 360 X 2

is 2 x 160 enough for less demanding sps at the higher edges of the rocks

any advice? Thanks 

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