SRC Member lis9090 Posted September 30, 2017 SRC Member Share Posted September 30, 2017 Hi all, It has been a traumatic 3 weeks for me. From having almost 10 fishes to only 6 now. Have learned it the hard way that if u do not qt ur fishes.. Ich will find a way to ur system some how. Another problem is.. Once I realised my powder brown had ich.. First mistake is to hastily set up a qt tank with a filter that is not cycled but using the display tank water. The fishes did OK at first as the water was from dt.. But as the copper treatment progressed.. And I did water changes along the way with freshly made rodi and salt.. Problems with ammonia and nitrite starts.. 2nd mistake is to have copper treatment in a tank that is not cycled yet as nitrite bacteria couldn't really form fast enough. Currently using cuprasorb to remove the copper as I would want to establish my filter first. Now the copper levels are down and almost gone. 3rd mistake no airpump.. Couldn't figure why my fishes started to die one by one until I realise it's oso oxygen issues. I even installed a chiller for them. Currently they are on prazi gold and methylene blue treatment. However have lost a majestic today (due to my blue face angel bullying and fin rot) Anyway after listing down my mistakes. Hope new qt beginners will be able to find Smth useful and to avoid losing ur beloved fishes too. It's painful I swear.. Criedddddd as they re like my babies T. T.. On a lighter note.. Have prepped my 5 ft tank for the remaining survivors to go in once I do another round of cupramine treatment for them(never can be too safe.. Ich is really a survival machine) Can anyone tell me if my rocks are too cluttered? Also attached a photo of my qt tank with my current fishes now Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member lis9090 Posted September 30, 2017 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 30, 2017 Fishes lost are : bicolour blenny (jumped out) Scooter blennyPowder brown tangScorpas tang juvNaso tang juvMajestic angel Surviving currently are :FoxfaceBlue face angel2x gobiesBanggaiClown fishYellow damselSent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member leong_rei Posted September 30, 2017 SRC Member Share Posted September 30, 2017 If yours is flower tank should add copper to it Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member lis9090 Posted September 30, 2017 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 30, 2017 If yours is flower tank should add copper to it Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Cos uh.. Intend to add corals next time and I had shrimps.. So yeah can't just addSent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvin6 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Cos uh.. Intend to add corals next time and I had shrimps.. So yeah can't just addSent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app You can add then after treatment use carbon to remove copper from the system.Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member lis9090 Posted September 30, 2017 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 30, 2017 You can add then after treatment use carbon to remove copper from the system.Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Scared might leech on the live rocks..Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvin6 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Scared might leech on the live rocks..Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Icic... then we must always qt no matter what . Anything wet qt.Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member lis9090 Posted September 30, 2017 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 30, 2017 Icic... then we must always qt no matter what . Anything wet qt.Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Yes.. Unfortunately learnt it the hard way.. Lost some of my babies so hope no one will go thru wad I went thru Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member leong_rei Posted September 30, 2017 SRC Member Share Posted September 30, 2017 Should feed your fish with garlic guard and feed them food 2 to 3 time adays if they eat well ich won't kill them I have 4 tang 20 wrasse my tank got ich and coral I also add new fish as long they eat won't die only if that is not ich then will dieSent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member lis9090 Posted October 1, 2017 Author SRC Member Share Posted October 1, 2017 Should feed your fish with garlic guard and feed them food 2 to 3 time adays if they eat well ich won't kill them I have 4 tang 20 wrasse my tank got ich and coral I also add new fish as long they eat won't die only if that is not ich then will dieSent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Thanks for the insight too maybe I m jus a bit ocd. Can't stand the thought of a parasite still hanging around in my tank waiting for opportunities to strike. Anyway I saw this on a Reef site and find it quite true : 11. Just feed the fish well and/or feed it garlic and it will be okay. Untrue. I compare this approach to this one: "Granny has pneumonia. Let's keep her home rather than take her to the hospital. We'll feed her well with chicken soup and vitamins." :bugout: Nutrition, foods, vitamins, etc. don't cure an infected fish. An infected fish is sick and is being tortured by the itching and discomfort. It might pull through and obtain Resistance or immunity (see above) but while you sit comfortably in your home, the fish is being stressed by having to contend with a parasite. Don't let this happen to the fish. Cure it!! Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 How long is yr tank being cycled? Dont just take test kit to determine. Cycle longer. Apart from picking heathy specimen, spread yr introduction of new fish. Not all fishes are required for QT in my personal experience as it can further stress fish. Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member lis9090 Posted October 1, 2017 Author SRC Member Share Posted October 1, 2017 How long is yr tank being cycled? Dont just take test kit to determine. Cycle longer. Apart from picking heathy specimen, spread yr introduction of new fish. Not all fishes are required for QT in my personal experience as it can further stress fish. Hi my qt tank is currently bout 3 weeks old.. Ic.. Which fish is nt suitable for qt? Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Schwantz Posted October 2, 2017 SRC Member Share Posted October 2, 2017 Had the same problem you encountered. I would advise leaving the DT fallow for minimum 8 weeks for the IcH to die off.Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member lis9090 Posted October 2, 2017 Author SRC Member Share Posted October 2, 2017 Had the same problem you encountered. I would advise leaving the DT fallow for minimum 8 weeks for the IcH to die off.Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Tat sucks.. Sorry to hear tat.. Did u qt ur fishes and treat them with cupramine? Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farhan Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Tat sucks.. Sorry to hear tat.. Did u qt ur fishes and treat them with cupramine? Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app My live stock went through the same situation ,ICH especially the A. Percula all five them had to be QT for 2 months on cupramine , left the tank fallow for 2 months . after term A.gutata died in QT , A.Percula survive for 1month then parish Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Schwantz Posted October 2, 2017 SRC Member Share Posted October 2, 2017 Tat sucks.. Sorry to hear tat.. Did u qt ur fishes and treat them with cupramine? Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app No. They all died. Some during cupramine treatment.Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member lis9090 Posted October 3, 2017 Author SRC Member Share Posted October 3, 2017 No. They all died. Some during cupramine treatment.Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Was ur hospital tank a cycled tank? Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member lis9090 Posted October 3, 2017 Author SRC Member Share Posted October 3, 2017 My live stock went through the same situation ,ICH especially the A. Percula all five them had to be QT for 2 months on cupramine , left the tank fallow for 2 months . after term A.gutata died in QT , A.Percula survive for 1month then parish Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Sorry to hear bout ur losses too.. Is ur hospital tank cycled well? Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Schwantz Posted October 3, 2017 SRC Member Share Posted October 3, 2017 Yes. QT tank was recycled. If the tank is not recycled, you can avoid ammonia build up by frequent water change.Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member lis9090 Posted October 7, 2017 Author SRC Member Share Posted October 7, 2017 Yes. QT tank was recycled. If the tank is not recycled, you can avoid ammonia build up by frequent water change.Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk My qt tank is almost Cycled I guess.. Have diatom bloom nowSent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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