dead fishes inside tank

[moron_clown]

hi,something went very very wrong recently and my whole batch of 8 anthias were almost all wiped out.i suspect that at least 6 of them are dead.. my ammonia and nitrite levels shot up sky high and off the colour charts...my corals are all doing fine...the problem is,do i find the antias and remove their body or do i just leave them there?i cant see them and removing them means removing my whole lot of 80kg++ liverocks first...that will be extremly tiring and time consuming not mentioning the huge amt of additional stress that my lifestock will suffer..i'm changing half of my tank water first thing tml..are there other thing that i should do to avoid a major crash?thanx thanx thanx

[moron_clown]

please help me AT big boss,i can see u reading this..

[moron_clown]

and he's gone...someone help..

[lightningstrike]

IMHO, do a water change immediately. monitor the parameters, do another water change if the need arises. juz me 2 cents.

[Terryz_]

The only thing is to remove them if you can find them... If not your ammonia will be at the peak cos the dead bodies are rotting... You will go through the cycle again...

[moron_clown]

that is very very bad...i will be leaving for hongkong on thursday..will be there for one week...i will do a water change tml and see how it goes..how long will the cycle go on?i dun think 6 dead fishes will rot very fast....

[strat]

O no. So sad to hear this happening to you. Any idea what happen?

Better try to find as much bodies you can and take them out.

A 50% change of water will be recommneded and put in GAC.

[fangtooth]

bro, a single dead fish can shoot up ammonia levels liow if your filteration not good.but...... your corals can survive but not your fishes

at that given water parameter. that i cant explain.

[patrick123]

Moron clown,

If you can see the anthias but cannot reach it with a net, then use a siphoning tube to suck it out. It is a good practise to remove the dead body to avoid further decay and causing ammonia to rise. If you cannot see the body, than no point to move all your 80kg of LR as it creates more stress and perhaps more ammonia.

What I would suggest you to do right now is go to someone or a LFS who already have a mature tank, buy, beg, steal, or rob if you have to, some matured coral chips and sand, the more you can get, the better it is. When you bring it home, try to carry it with the salt water to avoid the bacteria dying off. Put them in your sump asap.

Secondly, make sure you have a good skimmer to remove any unwanted protein that will turn into ammonia. If necessary, borrow an extra one and run two in parallel.

Thirdly, SL sells a pad that can absorb ammonia and nitrite. It is quite expensive though....but you should try it. I have it in my 2ft tank and it has been very stable ever since.

Finally, you need to find out what exactly did you do that coz the tank to crash. If you don't find out the rootcause, putting new bacteria will not help. They may die off eventually.

Cheers,

Patrick

[Eric]

hi,something went very very wrong recently and my whole batch of 8 anthias were almost all wiped out.i suspect that at least 6 of them are dead.. my ammonia and nitrite levels shot up sky high and off the colour charts...my corals are all doing fine...the problem is,do i find the antias and remove their body or do i just leave them there?i cant see them and removing them means removing my whole lot of 80kg++ liverocks first...that will be extremly tiring and time consuming not mentioning the huge amt of additional stress that my lifestock will suffer..i'm changing half of my tank water first thing tml..are there other thing that i should do to avoid a major crash?thanx thanx thanx

Get a dozen hermit crabs and frequent water change plus AZ-NO3 to help you combat this war.

[alanseah]

well if u have a mass die off.. in your case..

go get poly filter... depending on your tank and add the require amt for filtering... do a big water change and let it cycle for a while...

dont add anymore LS in as you tank r now a high killing machine... do take out those LS that is alive and put into another tank..ammonia in high ph tank (salt water tank) is very toxic and no fish/LS can withstand it...

Coral will be ok in ammonia level tank but not fish..

[strat]

If can, temporary put your fishes in someone's tank 1st.

[patrick123]

Get a dozen hermit crabs and frequent water change plus AZ-NO3 to help you combat this war.

Can hermit crab remove ammonia and nitrite????

[patrick123]

well if u have a mass die off.. in your case..

go get poly filter... depending on your tank and add the require amt for filtering... do a big water change and let it cycle for a while...

dont add anymore LS in as you tank r now a high killing machine... do take out those LS that is alive and put into another tank..ammonia in high ph tank (salt water tank) is very toxic and no fish/LS can withstand it...

Coral will be ok in ammonia level tank but not fish..

Is the poly filter the type of pad that SL sells?

[Eric]

Can hermit crab remove ammonia and nitrite????

Nah, hermit crabs can't remove NH3 or NO2 or NO3......but it can eat up your dead fishes very fast.........after they are well fed, you can give them to me.....hehehe

[alanseah]

Can hermit crab remove ammonia and nitrite????

What he mean is that hermit crab will eat up the dead fish...

but in this case dont do that cause he already got ammonia build up..

adding more LS in will only make thing worst as instead of helping to clean/eat the dead fish, before they can do that, end up all dead and increase the ammonia level more...

[aStRoBo|]

Can hermit crab remove ammonia and nitrite????

i think wad he meant was to get hermit crabs so it will help to eat away the dead fishes..

[moron_clown]

thanks guys.i will buy the poly filter right away.i have boght a very expensive bacteria called the "bacter vital".its produced by marc weiss.poured half of the bottle in just now.over 100 times the reccomended dosage.the strange thing is,my clownfish,one tiger tail and one purple queen,plus my coral beauty and blue tang and even my naso,are all feeding well and dont look too unhappy...thats very strange...thanx for all the help guys..will keep u ppl updated.

[alanseah]

just keep a look out if your fish is breathing heavily or keep swimming to the top of your tank or even at the top trying to breath outside air..

this is a sign telling u, must act fast else everything will be gone...

As I have advise you to take out your fish not only to play safe but also help alot in reduce the bio load in the tank and let everything pass first without adding stress it this bad stage..

[moron_clown]

O no. So sad to hear this happening to you. Any idea what happen?

Better try to find as much bodies you can and take them out.

A 50% change of water will be recommneded and put in GAC.

well i dun really noe what happened..seems like the lyretail anthais decided to commit suicide together...and they decided to hide themselfs first...can see them anywhere,i've been prodding around the tank for the whole morning...cant really sleep last nite..

[moron_clown]

just keep a look out if your fish is breathing heavily or keep swimming to the top of your tank or even at the top trying to breath outside air..

this is a sign telling u, must act fast else everything will be gone...

As I have advise you to take out your fish not only to play safe but also help alot in reduce the bio load in the tank and let everything pass first without adding stress it this bad stage..

if i have to take out the fishes i will have to remove my life rocks too..no wonder is see all my anthias near the surface of the water prior to their mass "suicide"...

[Vinoth]

Why dont try to dose nutrafin cycle? . It quickly removes ammonia and nitrite and cost effective too.

[alanseah]

yup me find nutrafin cycle very gd...

and i'm using it for my new 5ft...

[ReDDeviLs]

sorry to hear that,hope things will be better asap

[moron_clown]

a very trusted friend of mine advised me to use the marc weiss product.i have also poured in around 200ml of leftover nutrafin cycle.i'll test my water later and see how it goes..