Royal Gramma

[fnscasey]

Anyone know where got sell the royal gramma, not the false gramma ?

Been seaching and can only find false gramma.

[fnscasey]

This is the picture of the false gramma that lots of lfs is selling.

[moron_clown]

lck 110 used to have lots of them in stock...

[FuEl]

Think it's rather easy to tell the difference between royal gramma and bicolor dottyback. It'll be harder to tell between royal gramma and brazilian gramma. That's what you should look out for.

[fnscasey]

Is the royal gramma more expensive compared with the false gramma ? Anyine can PM me about the price range ?

Thanks !

[jc85]

Many of us have been searching for the royal gramma for months. I myself have been looking 4 it since Sep 2003.

[ervine]

I think I saw two brazillians at ML a few days back... should be brazillian lah din bother to ask coz royals are so hard to come by

[bwilly]

royal gamma is hard come by here. its more common in the west.

[arcanehacker]

Think it's rather easy to tell the difference between royal gramma and bicolor dottyback. It'll be harder to tell between royal gramma and brazilian gramma. That's what you should look out for. 

grammas and dottybacks are totally different.. can tell from their mouths, face, gradual fading of the 2 colours and dot on the dorsal fin.

[davwong]

I saw quite a number of brazillians at reb##rn last weekend and bought one myself.

[arcanehacker]

I saw quite a number of brazillians at reb##rn last weekend and bought one myself.

you sure its brazillian? .. reborn always have dottyback.. never seen them bring in brazillian before.

BTW how much you bought it?

[davwong]

Yes it is the same as the first picture on the top of this thread and it cost me $25 and I know a dottyback when I see one because I also own one.

[davwong]

Just a word of advice don't put the brazillian and the dottyback together because the two of them are about the same size and colour

and they will fight and you will end up with only fish.

[arcanehacker]

Just a word of advice don't put the brazillian and the dottyback together because the two of them are about the same size and colour

and they will fight and you will end up with only fish.

tot dottybacks are sleeker so therefore looks smaller what.. probably the dotty will die first..

[davwong]

Sorry to add it's slightly different from the top picture because brazillian don't have a black strip across the eye.

[fnscasey]

Note that this fish does not have a black stripe through the face like the Royal Gramma

[Gouldian]

I agree,

Royal Grammas are very rare here. The recent imports are Brazalian Grammas, I bought two from ML. 1 for myself and 1 for a friend.

But can anyone advise on the diffrence between the two except the stripe on the eye? The infos I gotten from the limited books I had seems to point that there isn't more different in term of temperament and behaviour. Some even claim that they are the same species but different variation.

Please advise.

[maKo]

tot dottybacks are sleeker so therefore looks smaller what.. probably the dotty will die first..

For that matter, don't put a dotty back in your tank if you can help it cos they are rather aggressive towards peaceful tankmates. Royal grammar threatens with its big mouth wide open but don't do much harm.

[Gouldian]

For that matter, don't put a dotty back in your tank if you can help it cos they are rather aggressive towards peaceful tankmates. Royal grammar threatens with its big mouth wide open but don't do much harm.

I totally agree with Mako,

For those that knows a little betwen the two (Dotty's & Grammas) they will know that Grammas although are bigger and look just as fierce, they do not cause fatality. Whereas for Dotty, I will not trust any of them in my tank!

[bwilly]

royal gamma darker n more contrast in colour..

brazilian slightly dull, different from dottyback is

the two tone colour. the two tone colour taper off..

dottyback is direct seperation of of two colour.

[Dispar_Anthias]

lck 110 used to have lots of them in stock...

Thy ae braziliansis not loreto

[blacknails]

Wow.. The Brazilian looks almost identical to the Royal Gamma..

I too have been searching for the Royal Gamma for months but I guess now that I've seen the pic I'll be looking out for the Brazilian Gamma as well...

I saw ONE Rayal Gamma at Rainb*w weeks ago before but it costs alot and it's dying of white spot so I didn'yt get it..

Oh that and I didn't have enuf cash at the moment.. Heh

[DeepBlue]

But can anyone advise on the diffrence between the two except the stripe on the eye? The infos I gotten from the limited books I had seems to point that there isn't more different in term of temperament and behaviour. Some even claim that they are the same species but different variation.

Please advise.

Brazilian grammas are great fishes, they have great temperaments....yup....agree they will only show their big mouth to 'frighten' potential threats.........

but read somewhere they are still more aggressive than the Royal Grammas(loretos). Royal grammas can be kept together, but not brazilian grammas.

and.....If you keep a brazilian with a royal gramma ... ... chances of the the loreto suffering is rather high

[Gouldian]

Brazilian grammas are great fishes, they have great temperaments....yup....agree they will only show their big mouth to 'frighten' potential threats.........

but read somewhere they are still more aggressive than the Royal Grammas(loretos). Royal grammas can be kept together, but not brazilian grammas.

and.....If you keep a brazilian with a royal gramma ... ... chances of the the loreto suffering is rather high

Thank yu bro Deepblue for the info, really appreciate it.

[ryz]

about 7 Royal Grammas spotted at Marine Image Yishun! Hurry! 35 bucks for one though