Anemone Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 hi all was just thinking, since clams require very intense lightings (maxis n croceas), will a shallow tank reduce the amt of light intensity needed? thinking of a standard 2 feet tank, with VERY thick sand bed (was thinking half of the tank height). sloped towards the front of the tank. will require some eggcrates to do the scaping, i guess. filtration will be a simple hangon filter equipped with some form of phosguard and active carbon. perhaps poly filter as well. lighting wise... will a 55W PL work in this case? white PL, 8000K. also some LR, not too much, so the clams can have the sandbed to themselves. LS will probably be a 6-lined wrasse. is this a gd selection? i like the wrasse coz its very active. n some snails for a bit of algae control. just an idea i tot of while surfing. feel free to comment. jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member 19percula Posted March 26, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted March 26, 2004 master roidan pls give him some comments btw i think most important is the lighting a shallow clam tank allows us to view the clam from the top and also if it is shallow then light can shine down to the bottom of the tank cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member ben Posted March 26, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted March 26, 2004 nice, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispar_Anthias Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Hmm a shallow tank cocncept is good... thats how a clam tank is run.... a shallow tank would enable you to see the top view of the clam easily(nicest part of clam) but i do not recommend a PL, IMo least you could go is t5s and many of them especially if you want ultras.... Anyway six line is not really a good bet, IMO some gobies would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispar_Anthias Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Anyway a small 2 feet will not look good.. IMO a squarish shallow tank is the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roidan Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 i am surprised to even see 55w PL being mentioned.... even for a shallow tank....please use MH for long term good for the clams Quote Advanced Aquarist (March05) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member bubble_gum Posted March 26, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted March 26, 2004 Hmm a shallow tank cocncept is good... thats how a clam tank is run.... a shallow tank would enable you to see the top view of the clam easily(nicest part of clam) but i do not recommend a PL, IMo least you could go is t5s and many of them especially if you want ultras.... Anyway six line is not really a good bet, IMO some gobies would be better. arnt 6lines gd for clam tanks? they are known to devour prymid snails aka clam parasites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispar_Anthias Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 arnt 6lines gd for clam tanks? they are known to devour prymid snails aka clam parasites? yeah they maybe good in this case but thier active behavior just does suit a clam tank..... a fast moving big six line may disturb clam... Maybe its just the way i wish my clam tank to be- peaceful and quiet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member bubble_gum Posted March 26, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted March 26, 2004 yeah they maybe good in this case but thier active behavior just does suit a clam tank..... a fast moving big six line may disturb clam... Maybe its just the way i wish my clam tank to be- peaceful and quiet hmm bro dispar anthias u heard anythng about the yellow corris warsse???? is it any gd at clam parasites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispar_Anthias Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 hmm bro dispar anthias u heard anythng about the yellow corris warsse???? is it any gd at clam parasites? hahah its one of the non reef safe wrasse, get it and your reef will suffer(all of your hard shell inverts will be gone) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member bubble_gum Posted March 26, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted March 26, 2004 hahah its one of the non reef safe wrasse, get it and your reef will suffer(all of your hard shell inverts will be gone) realli???? mus be the wrong warrese then. hahahaha. have been thinking too abt shallow clam tanks. but probbably have to sell off all my corals to set it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispar_Anthias Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 realli???? mus be the wrong warrese then. hahahaha. have been thinking too abt shallow clam tanks. but probbably have to sell off all my corals to set it up. My reef now is a clam only tank....... IMO much easier to maintain than a reef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anemone Posted March 26, 2004 Author Share Posted March 26, 2004 actually, was thinking of sqams n desaras coz my the higer intensity required by the maxis. hmm.. it does seem 55W is on the low side... how about 2X36W? i think 8000k is more suitable than 10k rite? T5s pricing is somewat on the high side. not affordable for me in the near future. unless i spurge my pay on it. and i have a standrd 2 feet lying ard at home mah. got stand somemore. hi roidan, just saw your post. hmm.. i guess the PL out of the qn.... thanks... but are the other stuff ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member ben Posted March 26, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted March 26, 2004 how big and how many clams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anemone Posted March 26, 2004 Author Share Posted March 26, 2004 hmm... how many clams should i have in a standrd 2 feet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member bubble_gum Posted March 26, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted March 26, 2004 actually bro anemone i got the same idea too. why not go with no sand bed and go with bb tank. less chances of bristleworm n pyrimid snails. then create a steplike stucture with eggcrates. place the more light needy clams right on top and the squamosas n derasas below. maybe even a hippopus which is impossible to find . that way the more light hungry clams get the light they need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anemone Posted March 26, 2004 Author Share Posted March 26, 2004 heh. just dun like the look of a tank without fine "0" sand. lol will 72W of PL be rnough for sqams n desaras? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member bubble_gum Posted March 26, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted March 26, 2004 heh. just dun like the look of a tank without fine "0" sand. lol will 72W of PL be rnough for sqams n desaras? i have 2 squamosas n a derasa in my tank under pls 110watt of pl IMHO i think its nt enough. gg get my by end of this yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anemone Posted March 26, 2004 Author Share Posted March 26, 2004 thanks for all the replies. when i get T5s in future then i keep the clams. temp wise how ah? 28C can? wats the highest i can go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member bubble_gum Posted March 26, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted March 26, 2004 think anythng below 30 but 25 is best i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anemone Posted March 26, 2004 Author Share Posted March 26, 2004 thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member moron_clown Posted March 26, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted March 26, 2004 i'm planning to do the same also.i have a deep sand bed in my sump which i have filled to abt 6 inches which left my around 4 inches.planning to use 1X250w mh.will that be enough?and the water flow through my sump is not v.strong,can the clams survive without the strong movements? Quote Reef Journal Gf's 6ft FOWLR My previous 4X2X2.5 (Retired) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member jd_n Posted March 26, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted March 26, 2004 i'm planning to do the same also.i have a deep sand bed in my sump which i have filled to abt 6 inches which left my around 4 inches.planning to use 1X250w mh.will that be enough?and the water flow through my sump is not v.strong,can the clams survive without the strong movements? Dun really get u regarding i have filled to abt 6 inches which left my around 4 inches. Do u mean frm surface of DSB to water surface is 4inches? If yes, 150W would be fine.....coz IMO 250W kinda of too high for sump and especially if ur sump is in the cabinet, its gonna be a sauna in there. Infact i m thinkin of gettin a 70W MH runnin on a 6500k to be placed in cabinet and abt 4-5inches above water...juz for my present reguifum though. Lastly, as long there r moderate water movements in ur sump, its alrite. Quote There are 2 types of person, those that chose learn n do it rite the first time and those tat chose to learn it the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member ryan Posted March 26, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted March 26, 2004 i think one important factor you will have to look into is the water quality... i think it would be really difficult to maintain good and stable water parameters with that small amount of water... also with all your equipment and lights with the small amount of water, the temp will fluctuate alot... well... just some problems i foresee... maybe if you guys can channel your existing tank water through the tank it might work better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispar_Anthias Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 actually bro anemone i got the same idea too. why not go with no sand bed and go with bb tank. less chances of bristleworm n pyrimid snails. then create a steplike stucture with eggcrates. place the more light needy clams right on top and the squamosas n derasas below. maybe even a hippopus which is impossible to find . that way the more light hungry clams get the light they need. Hmm in a clam tank with just derasa and squamosa... its definately not going to be nice....... Anyway even for deras or squamos tank, t5s is the least.... BTW hippophus is not that difficult to find just no one wants to bring them in.... same goes for gigas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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