Valleyman Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 If skimmer can remove lots of bad stuff, is it necessary to add carbon to sump ? Have brought some bags but not introduce into sump yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Tang Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 A skimmer will probably be a better long-term maintenance solution and cheaper to run as opposed to constant use of carbon. Carbon can be used intermittently to supplement a PS. The primary function of good carbon eg. GAC, is that it is excellent at immediate removal of dissolved organics and chemicals in water eg. medication, yellowing components (which a PS may not properly do/can't do without ozone supplementation). The shortcoming of GAC is that it becomes saturated quickly and its effectiveness diminishes quickly within a few days (depending on bioload). However, it could become a biological filter if kept for a long time (not recommended). The danger is that it could leach back the stuff it absorbed if not replaced quickly. Treat carbon like a sponge... once it absorbs the 'bad stuff' till saturation... throw it away. Also, poorer quality GAC may actually leach phosphates into your tank... causing a new set of problems. Note that overuse of GAC at one time could shock corals as the water becomes cleaner and clearer, causing light to penetrate deeper, potentially causing sensitive corals to bleach. It's a possiblity which has been highlighted before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member pospeh Posted January 31, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 31, 2003 The typical carbon package of 16 oz is too much to be used at one time in a tank. Because of what AT expliained with respect to leaching back of old carbon, I recommend that you use only 2 or 3 ozs at one time, and change in about 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member hongqixian Posted January 31, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 31, 2003 In simple terms, carbon picks up where the skimmer leaves off. Skimmers get the big bits and carbon cleans up the rest. Poor quality carbons like for luohan filter leach large amounts of phosphates and are poor at absorbing pollutants. Use a good brand like chemipure, black diamond, sea chem matrix carbon etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valleyman Posted February 1, 2003 Author Share Posted February 1, 2003 A skimmer will probably be a better long-term maintenance solution and cheaper to run as opposed to constant use of carbon. Carbon can be used intermittently to supplement a PS. The primary function of good carbon eg. GAC, is that it is excellent at immediate removal of dissolved organics and chemicals in water eg. medication, yellowing components (which a PS may not properly do/can't do without ozone supplementation). The shortcoming of GAC is that it becomes saturated quickly and its effectiveness diminishes quickly within a few days (depending on bioload). However, it could become a biological filter if kept for a long time (not recommended). The danger is that it could leach back the stuff it absorbed if not replaced quickly. Treat carbon like a sponge... once it absorbs the 'bad stuff' till saturation... throw it away. Also, poorer quality GAC may actually leach phosphates into your tank... causing a new set of problems. Note that overuse of GAC at one time could shock corals as the water becomes cleaner and clearer, causing light to penetrate deeper, potentially causing sensitive corals to bleach. It's a possiblity which has been highlighted before. My tank is fast over-running with brown algae (dinoflagellate ?) and I am scrambling for phosguard as I read that phosphate is one of the main culprit. Have just installed a PRIZM skimmer and if carbon leaches out phosphate, then it's a no no now. For my algae problem, other than reduce feeding/lightings, skimming and introducing phosguard, what do you guys recommend ? Dread to see my setup cover with these brown stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member X_Japan Posted February 1, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted February 1, 2003 But do beware when keeping some species of corals E.g Xenia and Anthelia If carbon is utilized, these corals suffer and will die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Tang Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 Have just installed a PRIZM skimmer and if carbon leaches out phosphate, then it's a no no now. No worries you get good quality GAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robe Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 The brown algae is diatom bloom caused by high silicate content in your water..... If u face a lot of diatom bloom try to use a RO or DI unit for ur top-up water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member CKS Posted February 2, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted February 2, 2003 if its diatom .. its not necessarily a bad thing check out the latest issue of Advanced Aquarist zine http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/jan...003/feature.htm incase u r keeping something that needs silica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valleyman Posted February 3, 2003 Author Share Posted February 3, 2003 The brown algae is diatom bloom caused by high silicate content in your water..... If u face a lot of diatom bloom try to use a RO or DI unit for ur top-up water. Someone mentioned that phosphate is also present in tapwater. Is that true ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member hongqixian Posted February 4, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted February 4, 2003 But do beware when keeping some species of corals E.g Xenia and Anthelia If carbon is utilized, these corals suffer and will die. Really? Can I use just a little, say a tablespoonful for my nano reef? Cause I have an anthelia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member CKS Posted February 4, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted February 4, 2003 Having carbon wouldnt hurt xenia/Anthelia just that they're good absorber of DOC too.. so having carbon or too clean tank might slow the growth Good lighting is more essential for xenia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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