khiann Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I have been fighting with Red Bugs and AEFW for 8 months. Tried out of tank dipping with iodine, coral dip and garlic(pills and fresh squash). With these treatment, both bugs came off and sps recover for 1 - 2 weeks, however, they come back with even stronger number of army. Losses many precious species of SPS due do this. I found that I have 2 type of red-bug(one red, one slightly larger but grey in color) and AEFW. The one does the most damage is red bugs. SPS will have the polyps retract, discolored and bite marks shown very quickly. One thing to take note for the community, if you are buying wild/cultured sps from the local LFS, I can almost assure you will get either one of it if you never do any quarantine/dip. You will think that the sps didn't manage to survive in your tank condition but, to me, 90% of my sps death is due to this. It will start with polyp retracted, might NOT get discolor or turn brown. The base of the SPS will start minor flesh retract. If you never notice close enough, you will have small white spots of bite mark when infestion is long enough. I decided enough is enough, decided to try Ivermectin 1% with the tank since some of the document on internet show it is effective on "both" the bugs. I was having difficulty getting the med from local vet, until I get it from somewhere(pm me if you need). It is a water soluble based of ivermectin for horse injection. 1%. WARNING, this is a very strong chemical to both human and animals. It will KILL all brittle star, snails, prawn, even small fish and small clams. Good thing is, some of the unwanted pest worm also get killed in the action. I did the full tank treatment with xtreme care. I will not be responsible for naything happen to your tank. Treatment for my 4x2x1.5 tank with 4x1.5x1.5 sump. with 22 species of sensitive and hardy sps. with 3 soft coral and a few zoas, one bubble anemone 6pm, I prepare fresh replacement salt water enough for 70% water change. Exact salinity, ca and KH, same temperature. 8pm, I dose 15ML of the ivermectin by mixing with the tank water in a container, then pour into the sump. Turn off both of my skimmer and tank out all carbon. 802pm, all my sps polyp retracted, including monti and BN. Clams shuts. Massive bubbles forms in the sumps area. 805pm. all snail, acro crab and some unknown bugs running for life, sps start to slimes 815pm. good amount of red bug and AEFW clinging on slimes string created on sps 830pm. all small snail and crab is no longer moving, all the pest worms and brittle stars floating around in the water. Try to remove as much as I can with fine hole net. My heart almost stop seeing the condition of the tank. No white cloud created in the water though. 9pm. similar, except the sps polyp came back and clams open slightly. Massive amount of pest dead. Small fish including little nemo stunt, laying but breathing on tank bottom. 10pm, turned on all skimmers and carbon. Skimmers immediately overflow like crazy, I drain the skimmers overflow directly into the toilet. Close monitor every 15 minutes and replace the water lost with fresh water. 11pm, SPS came back like magic with better than before polyp extension. soft and hard coral is not affected at all. anemone too. 2am, almost 1/4 of water over flown and replaced. 4am, skimmer come back to normal, went to sleep 8am, replace new carbon, clean skimmer neck, replace the remaining 20% of water. coral status quo 2nd day passed, slightly higher NO3 noticed, 10ppm higher, came down in a few days. SPS does not seems to be affected, Zero coral casualty. All crabs and worms are gone, together with the pest. notice zero of it on the coral 3rd day, clams and fish all recovered 8th day, 10ML dose with similar procedure. This time no more massive death occur, prob all dead in the first dose. 16th day, 8ML dose One month passed, I have zero pest in the tank, including AEFW! The sps rebound with extremely fast growth and polyp extension, much better color too. Will take picture too.. just a sharing for the folks, becareful with the treatment though. I think the water change make a different and didn't lead the treatment to tank crash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member james72 Posted July 9, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2014 Thanks for sharing. .....do you have pics to show the red bugs and aefw bite marks on sps? Cheers, James Quote Cheers, James Reviving my reef tank : Crystal glass 53" x 22" x 17" rimless (inclusive of 12"x22"x17" IOS) Life Reef HVS3-24 with mazzei venturi ATI Sunpower 8 x 39w T5 (4 x Blue plus, 2 x Aqua blue special, Coral plus) ZET Light 3 x 3w LEDs moonlight Arctica 1/3 Hp + 1/4 Hp back up Vortech mp40w x 3 + Jebao wp25 Eheim 1264 x 3 + water blaster 5000 Vortech back up battery TLF-150 + Rowaphos Activated carbon Kamoer 3 channel + CaCl2 + NaHCo3 150L Refugium with DSB, miracle mud, cheato 2ft T5 x 2 light tubes for refugium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member solasido Posted July 9, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2014 Good info; thanks for sharing bro. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tofubox Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Excellent and detailed sharing bro khiann. I believe many sps reefers can benefit from this article u wrote. Quote I Love Stagsss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member surreal1228 Posted July 9, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2014 Bookmarked Thx Sent from my GT-N7105 using Tapatalk Quote :superman: :superman: :superman: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member hanafi_weeseng Posted July 9, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2014 Cool,pls share with some pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Slimymadness Posted July 10, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted July 10, 2014 Excellent article! Very detailed. The treatment seems effective against the eggs as well? Thanks for taking the time and courage to do this! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote I believe there is something out there watching us. Unfortunately, it's the government. - Woody Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khiann Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 you need 3 treatment to break the hatch cycle. 1 week apart. It does not kill the egg. Tonight I will take some picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted July 11, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted July 11, 2014 amazing work bro. salute your dedication to making sure the bugs are gone! Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member titustitus Posted July 11, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted July 11, 2014 well done bro! your hardwork really paid off and now u can live to tell of this battle haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Slimymadness Posted July 11, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted July 11, 2014 you need 3 treatment to break the hatch cycle. 1 week apart. It does not kill the egg. Tonight I will take some picture. Quote I believe there is something out there watching us. Unfortunately, it's the government. - Woody Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khiann Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 Example of the tissue recession. Sorry for the bad quality Look at the bite mark. Google have better quality photo. Red bug bite mark focuses on lower part of coral. Aefw bormally spread across the entire coral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khiann Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share Posted July 12, 2014 How the tank looks under full metal halide. When the lights off i will take some closer picture for "colors" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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I love angel Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Where to buy ivermectin? Any picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member titustitus Posted July 14, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted July 14, 2014 wow great pics man! looking good now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member ASHWIN Posted July 15, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted July 15, 2014 Thank You For Sharing bro!..AEFW Has Been a SPS Keepers nightmare..atleast we as hobbyist can sleep well at night..with this way of eradicating them.. Quote 300Gallons of Pure Goodness! >Dimensions 6x2x2 (Foot) 1: Maxspect 160 Watt qty-2 2: Vortech MP 40 Wes 3:Jaebao WP40 qty-2 3: Skimz Becket Skimmer/ Ehiem 1260 4: Dymax XC 900 Calcium Reactor 5: American Pinpoint PH Controller 6: Iwaki MD 55 And MD 70 (Return) 7: Hydra Aquatics FR45 Reactor 8:Hailea 10HP Chiller R2R forum->>>http://www.reef2reef.com/forums/photography-forum/154896-ashwins-reefing-photography.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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