Save the live stocks.....

[james72]

Starting this thread for sharing of information from your personal bad experiences and how it kill your live stocks.

I will kick start one, hope more reefers can share....

1) Do not underestimate the strength(par) of your led light set, do not place led light set too low as it can burn your corals. Place high for spread and always go slow with the percentage.

Cheers,

James

[sherman]

Starting this thread for sharing of information from your personal bad experiences and how it kill your live stocks.

I will kick start one, hope more reefers can share....

1) Do not underestimate the strength(par) of your led light set, do not place led light set too low as it can burn your corals. Place high for spread and always go slow with the percentage.

Cheers,

James

Bro,

I strongly support your suggestion.

LED can kill

[xiggie]

So ... How do we know if the corals are getting too much or enough or not enough light .. ? Besides bleaching or dying which is too late if they get to that point .

[james72]

Most of us dont have a par meter to measure. But we do alot of read up on the corals or fishes we going to get before we go out there to buy them. With the right info, we know where to position our corals. Then next is through close observations. If the coral is not opening well within 1-2 days, you better start shifting it to another location or check your water parameters. I have personally recovered a few bleached lps, mostly its due to too strong lights. Keeping them undershade or lower lighting zone with good water parameters will get it colour up in 6 months time. Dont expect a miracle cure. Many a times I see impatience newbies started blasting lights or dosing chemicals they do not measure to try achieve the colours they desire. Time and diligence water change is the best medicine for this hobby. If you dont have it, whatever you try will deem to fail. Disclaimer: Above statement refers to newbies and not season reefers who know what they are doing to speed up the process with tight counter measures. Cheers, James http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/topic/105744-the-journey-to-the-valley-of-the-reef-by-james/'>

[ReDDeviLs]

2) do not add too many livestock at one go. Most of the time we human like to " play with fire" i add 2 fish today no problem, tomorrow add another 2 and so on for a week or 2. when the problem comes they all go at one go.

fishes dont die like instantly. Any disease or illness on them takes awhile to surface. Do not over estimate your system capability.

[reefaquaria]

3) impatient in cycling process and introduce livestock too early in the process when water parameter is still unstable

[sherman]

Be very careful with led. It kill your livestock. Always start with lowest intensity level and increase slowly over time. Do not full blast immediately.

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[GuyFawkes]

be patience is the key! this "patience" always leads to over stocking, water not mature enough.

[domvonn]

Treat all live stock with respect . Even though it's an easily affordable yellow watchman goby , it's still a life and appropriate environment is needed .

[domvonn]

A ' live ' I mean .

[woyeng**]

So we need to do proper research before buying LS bcos after a while one may get "sian" of the "easy" / "beginner" LS and decide on ways to let it go...

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[ASHWIN]

4)In Balance In Parameters Is A Big No No..Flux In Kh,SG Will cause harm to SPS And Lps so keep these two stable and the others too

[Harlequinmania]

5) adding new fish and corals without doing research of it's behaviour and requirements.

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[MarcoVan]

6) cooking live rocks by putting them in the sun. This not only add extra nutrient to the rocks due to die offs inside the rock and also result in longer start up period. "Cooking" is not kill the rocks. Cooking is soaking rocks in hyper salinity or slightly higher than usual temperature to remove unwanted pests therefore keeping the entire integrity of the live rock intact. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[reefaquaria]

That is interesting bro marcovan... I noticed many reefer here soaked rocks in boiled distilled or ro/di water and sun-dried it... How to treat the rock with algae if one want to restart the tank?

[asg]

Do not overfeed... esp during weekend at home... when the second most interesting thing to do is watching fish eat...

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[MarcoVan]

That is interesting bro marcovan... I noticed many reefer here soaked rocks in boiled distilled or ro/di water and sun-dried it... How to treat the rock with algae if one want to restart the tank?

You soak it in seawater inside a pail and leave it somewhere dark corner off light and preferably abit of sun on it for couple of hours just to raise the temp.

Meantime you dose good bacteria which upon heavy temp metabolizes faster to consume nutrients within the rock and those nutrient reside in water.

No light no nutrient algae dies. Which becomes new nutrient for bacteria to consume.

Process is abit long but definitely fruitful.

Do some planning in advance.

I do this while waiting for my tank to come.

Works on dead rocks too

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[reefaquaria]

thanks bro marcovan, learnt new thing today

[blackcell]

Live rock should be cure first and sun dry before placing into tank, pest will big headache once your tank mature..

Coralline agale can be achieve once water parameters is good and the correct chemical dosing, so far I use Red Sea coral products and its does well and it's the most affordable..

Don't forget placement of wave is important for LR as brown sludge tend to stick on it. Correct targeting of water flow will help to keep it clear of it..

Cycling is important, correct bacteria dosing and introduce your fishes in a later stage, ideally smaller ones after placements of corals and refugium ( if space permits. ). I have experience in cycling my tank in a few days with careful planing so that it's doesn't build up debris in the tank..

Summary, Water is gold and so is your livestock..

When you fish for love, bait with your heart, not your brain...

[Saeight Abdul Rahman]

a good thread. thanks for sharing!

[tofubox]

1) Do not underestimate the strength(par) of your led light set, do not place led light set too low as it can burn your corals. Place high for spread and always go slow with the percentage.

2) do not add too many livestock at one go. Most of the time we human like to " play with fire" i add 2 fish today no problem, tomorrow add another 2 and so on for a week or 2. when the problem comes they all go at one go.

3) impatient in cycling process and introduce livestock too early in the process when water parameter is still unstable

4)In Balance In Parameters Is A Big No No..Flux In Kh,SG Will cause harm to SPS And Lps so keep these two stable and the others too

5) adding new fish and corals without doing research of it's behaviour and requirements.

6) cooking live rocks by putting them in the sun. This not only add extra nutrient to the rocks due to die offs inside the rock and also result in longer start up period. "Cooking" is not kill the rocks. Cooking is soaking rocks in hyper salinity or slightly higher than usual temperature to remove unwanted pests therefore keeping the entire integrity of the live rock intact

7) Not using the correct TDS water and inappropriate salt mix for more sensitive livestocks

8) Not inspecting / quarantining livestock before adding to main tank, pest introduction is a disaster that will take over the tank.

[blesson87]

With regards to strong lights and it killing or bleaching corals, just like fish, corals also need to be acclimated ... specifically light acclimated. A method I am familiar with is the use of different layer of screening over newly arrived corals. And every week or so remove a layer so that it progressively becomes brighter until no more screening is left. This method is called photo acclimation. Dont know if anybody here follows it but this is the best method I ve seen for people who own powerful lighting.

[james72]

That's good sharing. ....blesson87

Cheers,

James

[Snoopyhamburger]

Very informative..

Thanks!

[blesson87]

Cheers ☺