Questions on Marine tank quote for my office

[finclk]

Dear all,

I'm helping my boss negotiate for a contract to set up a marine fish tank in our office. I have experience only in fresh water fish so i'm not sure about prices or equipment to use. I am the only guy who keeps fish so i at least know what to do so my boss is asking me to handle this.

Below are some details of the quote:
- 6ft x 1.5ft (W) x 2.8ft (H) glass tank (10mm thickness)
- sump tank filtration system
- Stainless steel stand
- live rocks
- Wave maker
- LED light set
- Hailea 6550 return pump (have already requested for a change to a european branded pump like fluval or eheim or OR6500)
- coral chips, sand
- Protein skimmer for 6ft
- 1 horse power air con chiller
- assorted live corals and fishes
- Delivery of sea water.

Total quote is 13-14k. Is this very pricey?

I have an idea on brands of items and prices as i keep arowanas mainly for big tanks also but have absolutely no idea on what to expect in the realms of marine fishes so would appreciate your help.

Qns:
1) Anyone has any feedback of Pacific Coo? Apparently this is the company that would be doing up our office tank together with the ID company
2) Is there such a brand for '1 horse power air con chiller'? If not what brand should i request for the chiller?
3) What are the min standard of brands of individual of items that i should be looking for?
4) Does the tank need to have full euro bracing? Total amount of water at 90% fill is slightly under 700L of water.
5) Any other tips would be appreciated.


There's also a maintenance contract to negotiate which costs $550 for the following:
- 4 times a month, once a week cleaning, removal of algae
- partial sea water change
- Replacement of dead corals or dead fish
- Equipment check (which any replacement is on my company's account)

Is the above reasonable? What else should i be asking for?

Thanks!

[xeneryx]

10mm will be too thin for a 6ft bro

[kenyee]

Ex..I think most sponsors shd b able to give u better quote..pm them..cheers

[[V]tEc]

$550 per mth which include maintenance n livestock is dirt cheap. However like 1 bro highlight, 6ft with such height better go for thicker glass to be safe

[tofubox]

Yeah it really depends man. If they quote u base on item and not specific brand. I.e LED light , protein skimmer for 6ft, 1 horse power chiller. Who knows what they going to give you bro. For 13k-14k quote, its hard even for us to say if thats cheap or expensive. For example, they can get a 6ft cheap led light from china company for maybe 300-400. Wherelse to get a good set of marine LED lightset, 1 unit (coverage of 2ft perhaps) is already 400++. Skimmer plenty of brands out there. Vertex, reef octopus, Bubble magus, deltec etc etc.

'1 horse power air con chiller' is not a brand, but an item. Its the rate of the chiller and chilling capacity. There are many brands included commercially known aircon brands like daikin if looking for a drop in coil with external condenser unit.

I guess if you need some inputs on the quotation you are getting, probably more information from the company will be required.

I suggest looking into couple of sponsors here and getting a quote.

[tofubox]

End of the day i will say it depends on how much your company is willing to fork out for a 6ft tank, and purpose of the tank. Because the brand and reliability of each item is going to differ very largely.

[finclk]

Thx guys. Hv already requested for more details of each individual item. I think most important is not to have lousier equipment which could fail over weekend and nobody knows. Besides if any equipment fails then we still hv to bear the cost of replacing those.

[Kakani]

Remember to ask your tank cabinet make for what wood and quailty alot of ID donno marine tank need better wood quailty for cabinet.

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[finclk]

Tank will be placed on metal stand behind wooden wall like offices

[youdontnowm]

Should ask for -Skimmer model -Wavemaker model -Return pump model -Led model ( how many led set? ) - 1Hp condenser brand (mitsubishi or daikin or etc) - how many kgs of liverock - such a big tank , 10mm not that safe. - go for eurobrace , muchmuch safer and tank that high , wont be able to enjoy rimless anyway - tank will be fish only with live rock Or small fishes with corals ? Most of the nicee big fish are not reef safe. Sent from my GT-N7105 using Tapatalk

[finclk]

Dear all, received updates as follows: Pls let me know if the individual items are suitable? Maybe after overseeing this project i might get interested in marine fish keeping

- 6ft x 1.5ft (W) x 2.8ft (H) (12mm glass), 40inches sump tank (6mm glass) and stainless steel stand.

- 100kg live rocks

- Jebao wp 60 wave maker x 2

- led light set x 2 (maxspec)

- ehiem 1264 return pump

- coral chips x 2 bags

- coral sand x 4 bags

- protein skimmer (bubble magus)

- 1hp chiller (Mitsubishi 9000btu full set direct coil dip to sump tank)

- $500 worth of corals.

- $500 worth of fishes

- topping up of seawater

How does this look now?

Thx

[youdontnowm]

All looks good.

-Maxspect what model ? Razor 160w/120w ? G2??

- bubble magus what model ? For skimmer , its much better to go deltec or skimz

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[tofubox]

Hi bro, seems alot more easier to understand now. Well i did say the items listed to you are in fact above average. Everything quoted to you are exactly what we are looking for in terms of reliability, don't require it to be top end brands or anything fanciful.

Some guidelines of pricing that i got from websites and sponsors on this forum, i hope it gives u a rough guide, please do not quote me on this pricing. Its what i can fetch from the forum and sponsor websites. Only use it as a estimate, actual price may differ due to discounts or availbility.

Jebao wp 60 wave maker x 2 = $258 (129 each)

Maxspect lightset : For 180cm (72") tanks:

- For marine tanks, we would recommend 3x 120w model (A10000) or 2x 160w model (M16000/M10000) suspension mounted.

So i am assuming its gonna be 2 x 160w = $1296 (648 each)

Ehiem 1264 = $387

Protien skimmer, Bubble magus (depending on model no.) = $700 to $1200

Liverocks depend on source and quality = assuming $15 a kg = 100kg = $1500

Fish and corals = $1000

Seawater is rougly $4 to $5 for 10liters: 680L main tank: $340, 40 inch sump 381L(assuming same length and height) : $190. Total cost: $530

Base on these its already about $6100 excluding chiller, tank, stand, sump, plumbing, coral chips. I think its a fair quote. but have you asked other tank makers for quotation.

[m_wtan79@yahoo.com.sg]

Bro if there is space get a bigger width. I got a 7ft x 1.5ft x 2.5ft tank. Going to redo my to 2.5ft width after 3 mth. Width too small very hard to scape ur LR.

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[finclk]

what kind of good quality dry marine fish food would you recommend assuming most of the fishes would be small fellas? Do the corals need to eat or anything like that?

[Evolutionz]

coral : Reef roids

fish : TDO or NLS

[erikokelf]

what kind of good quality dry marine fish food would you recommend assuming most of the fishes would be small fellas? Do the corals need to eat or anything like that?

Dainichi, TDO, Newlife spectrum will be some good pallets to mention.

Coral will depends on what you are keeping.