Fishes start rub on sand in 1 month setup tank - advise?

[Leong_varian]

Hi all,

I seeing some of my fishes start rubbing on LR & sand. Believe is itch or white spot, but I still can't see

any spot yet. And all fishes still eating like pig. Beside doing 10% water change, should I add medication?

Like seachem para guard ? Pls advise? Thank you

[iskay]

Continue to keep water conditions good, feed enriched food, avoid stirring the sand bed. Once ich enters your tank it'll always be there unless you let it go fish less for extended periods. Best to help the fishes fight it off. Garlic enrichment is said to boost immune system.

If symptoms are severe, then medicate. Every hobbyist has their trusted medicine. Mine is Artemis from MicrobeLift.

[carfyx]

My midas and blue tang has this issue months ago. I went to buy garlic guard and soak with tdo plus cyclopeeze to feed them. Doing regular water change and added a cleaner shrimp. After a month of battle, all are cleared from Ich.

But that doesnt mean lch will never come again. Once the fishes are stressed or your water para is going downwards, lch will plague

All the best!

[Leong_varian]

Ok, thk for advise. So beside water change , any additive or medication to help the fishes to kick away the itch?

[carfyx]

You can read on the parasite and disease section in this forum. Theres 2-3 ways that 100% remove lch but must exercise extreme precaution !

[Leong_varian]

Presently I have 3 cleaner shrimp & soak pellet with galic guard, feeding twice a day. Will do 10% water change once every 2 wks

[Leong_varian]

Have a intention to do hypo treatment ..

[Evolutionz]

Currently there are no proven reef safe medication that cures ich

Most effective being copper. However many had success with just feeding with garlic and maintaining good water. But also must remember ich will always be in ur tank from now on. It will only be gone if you leave ur tank empty for a couple of months.

[Leong_varian]

Have a intention to do hypo treatment ..btw I only have cleaner shrimp & 3 tube worm..any additive or medication help?

[Evolutionz]

Best to set up a QT if u want to do copper treatment.

[Land2013]

If the fish didnt getting serious or white dot appear, not encourage for any medication. It will only further stress the fish and go more worst. When my purple tang start scratch LR, i start garlic guard mix with pellet n seaweed n 2nd day happily swimming.

[Leong_varian]

Ok. I will just monitor & water change regularly

[Bulldozer]

Garlic DO NOT work for Ich.

Keep on doing water change and feed good food.

Water Change helps a lot.

Copper Is the only effective medication.

[Leong_varian]

Ok. May I know how often should & % water to change out? My tank size is 422.5

[Leong_varian]

Hi all, did 20% change twice..but my fishes have obvious white spot & eating well. Pls advise medication .... copper treatment fromseachem ok? Btw I am only keeping fishes

[Leong_varian]

I mean out 8 fishes, 1/2 of them is not eating now

[carfyx]

Garlic will boost the immunity of the fish to fight against diseases themselves. Use copper if you are keep FOWLR or running a hospital tank separate from display tank as overdose of copper will cause fish not to eat and if you dose direct in display tank it will harm livestock if you have invertebrates/coral .

It is best you can find exp-ed reefer staying ard you to help you.

[Leong_varian]

Any experience reefer advise? Fyi, yesterday all fishes was still ok. Then over the night , I switch off the big wave maker & on the other small wave maker. In the morning, I found all my fishes have white spot. Now my big wave maker is on..does this strong wave help reduce the itch? My 6" blue angel is not active now...should I do copper treatment?

[carfyx]

I cant help u much but for my situation is :

White spots only appear at night and disappear in the day.

[Land2013]

Ur situation is serious. Set up qt and let dt without fish for at least 4 wk.

[I love angel]

Any experience reefer advise? Fyi, yesterday all fishes was still ok. Then over the night , I switch off the big wave maker & on the other small wave maker. In the morning, I found all my fishes have white spot. Now my big wave maker is on..does this strong wave help reduce the itch? My 6" blue angel is not active now...should I do copper treatment?

Why turn off the big wavemaker and turn on the small wavemaker at nigh? Normally no need to do that.

Is there any corals in the tank and any intention to have corals? If answer is no for all, then you can add copper. Do it slowly to prevent stress.

Good luck!

[Leong_varian]

Thinking that big wave is too strong. So off thinking will help to reduce stress...no coral...brought aquaPharm cure ich...will it help? Or straight into copper treatment?

[Leong_varian]

Btw I could see the front view of my tank is cover with white dot...is this the itch bacteria ? Should I use the cleaner magnet to clear them off into the water?

[ASHWIN]

Keep Doing WC..and Keep Feeding food with selcon and garlic..Also if becomes worst setup a qt..Thats the best but ..if its not that bad..good wster with good food might help them..I Have Tried Polylab Medic With Good Results+its Reef Safe..You Could Consider That too..Garlic implimented with mysis helps too ..if you do need to use copper i would suggest a Qt..bro All the best hope you win this battle!

[Leong_varian]

Daily dose AquaPharm cute itch & waterline good bacteria dosing .. day 3 now. Will continue to dose both together for 10 days