gavintan87 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Hi all, does cheato need to be accompanied with a sand bed such as miracle mud etc? thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokyc Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 No need. Lighting is most important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter Harlequinmania Posted November 20, 2012 SRC Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2012 And it need moderate flow also. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 Quote 1000 Gallon Tank in the Hole http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/topic/120957-1000-gallon-3d-hole-in-the-wall/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavintan87 Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 How to know its growing? i've got some part of the cheato with white strands on it? Are these dying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter Harlequinmania Posted November 21, 2012 SRC Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2012 If it grow bigger and bigger. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 Quote 1000 Gallon Tank in the Hole http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/topic/120957-1000-gallon-3d-hole-in-the-wall/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiraltian Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 How to know its growing? i've got some part of the cheato with white strands on it? Are these dying? Need to manually remove the white strands part. It's dying and releasing nutrients back to your tank. Quote Display Tank : 36" x 20" x 20" Herbie overflow box design, Sump : 36" x 21" x 17", Frag Tank : 16” x 20” x 16”, custom built by Tank Culture. Lightings : Ecotech Radion XR15 Pro x 2 for Main Display Tank, Inled R80 x 1 for Frag Tank. Chiller : Dalkin 1hp compressor with build-in drop coil. Skimmer : Skimz Octa SC205i Protein Skimmer. FR : H2Ocean FMR75 Fluidised Media Reactor with Hailea HX-2500 (Feeder Pump) running Rowaphos. CR : Skimz Monzter E Series CM122 Calcium Reactor. BPR: Marine Source Biopellet Reactor with Continuum Reef Biopellet Fuel. Main Return Pump : SICCE Syncra ADV 9.0 & Jebao ACQ-10000 Water Pump. Wavemaker : Jebao MOW-9 x2 for Main Display Tank & Jebao SLW-20M Sine Wave Pump for Frag Tank. Water Top Up: AutoAqua Smart ATO Lite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavintan87 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 Need to manually remove the white strands part. It's dying and releasing nutrients back to your tank. thx for the advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymbvolka Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Light is most important, best with white light that is 12K. With moderate water movement to circulate the green ball ( ball can rotate so all surface will have light) and a little help of iron element for healthy growth and most important must have nutrients to grow big big! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geckus Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Light is a must and of course water haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekian Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Will cheato survive if i leave it in the ios. What is the light requirement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yangster Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 i dose with kent marine iron twice a month. its a critter paradise.... Quote Tank : 2.5 x1.5 x 2 Skimmer : Bubble Magus NAC3.5 Lighting : Maxspect 110W Chiller : Hailea 150 @ 27Deg Salt : TropicMarin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauterbrunnen Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 need very strong light. i started with those compact fluorescents tried 25w to 100w 6000 kelvin but no success. then decided to use leds 3w x 10 10000 kelvin. now it is growing like crazy :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldcoolwater Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Do they need 24/7 for the light? for a better grow. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member liquidnoise Posted December 30, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted December 30, 2012 CHeatos is to reduce nitrate. But if I have a 1 ft tank, so i really need cheatos? There is no space in the IOS so if necessary to ppl put in the tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Rxcp14 Posted December 30, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted December 30, 2012 need very strong light. i started with those compact fluorescents tried 25w to 100w 6000 kelvin but no success. then decided to use leds 3w x 10 10000 kelvin. now it is growing like crazy :-) Think its the colour temp that's impt? im using philips 3led cool white light for a photo period of 10hrs. Quote Fresh fishes and inverts! What's next? To the salty side of marine of course! "Never to part, lest jealous heaven stole our hearts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Rxcp14 Posted December 30, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted December 30, 2012 CHeatos is to reduce nitrate. But if I have a 1 ft tank, so i really need cheatos? There is no space in the IOS so if necessary to ppl put in the tank? Not enough space for it to grow to be efficient nutrient exporter also. Better to have good husbandry like water changes and not overfeeding. Quote Fresh fishes and inverts! What's next? To the salty side of marine of course! "Never to part, lest jealous heaven stole our hearts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member liquidnoise Posted January 1, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 1, 2013 Not enough space for it to grow to be efficient nutrient exporter also. Better to have good husbandry like water changes and not overfeeding. Thx for the advice, think the set up will have 1 pair of clown, 1 shrimp or 2. emperia (actually i dunno wat fish) very colorful green and blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Rxcp14 Posted January 1, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 1, 2013 Thx for the advice, think the set up will have 1 pair of clown, 1 shrimp or 2. emperia (actually i dunno wat fish) very colorful green and blue. Welcome! Quote Fresh fishes and inverts! What's next? To the salty side of marine of course! "Never to part, lest jealous heaven stole our hearts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauterbrunnen Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Think its the colour temp that's impt? im using philips 3led cool white light for a photo period of 10hrs. i think not so important but really need strong. mine i make sure the light can still reach the sand bed even the chaeto gets thicker. i placed the leds 4 inch from water surface and using mixed of 80 and 60 degree optics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Rxcp14 Posted January 2, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 2, 2013 i think not so important but really need strong. mine i make sure the light can still reach the sand bed even the chaeto gets thicker. i placed the leds 4 inch from water surface and using mixed of 80 and 60 degree optics. Ok.... Quote Fresh fishes and inverts! What's next? To the salty side of marine of course! "Never to part, lest jealous heaven stole our hearts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LittleBurger Posted January 2, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 2, 2013 This is what I experimented. Par38 9 leds, 1 Watt each, 6 blue n 3 white. Dymax pl15watt. Notice the difference. I added the dymax around 2wks ago. The area subjected to the pl becomes like this. Just the par38 bulb. The cheato is still growing fast. The area not subjected to direct light didn't die off. Pic of cheato growing under. So I think enough light will do. Flow is more important. Though with led saves power, no harm add more light. It seems light spectrum of pl or white encourage cynao.. . Quote Tank size:36"x36"x24" Return pump" 2x Reef Octo 5000 Skimmer:BK Double Cone 200 on Reef Octopus DC 5500s. Wavemaker:2xVortech MP40wES Chemical filtration:1xeducator FR(biopellets) Chiller:1hp Daikin compressor. Lighting:2 x Kessil A360we Auto topup system: JBJ ATO + new jet 1200 Dosing system: Kamoer 3 channel. Additives: ESV 2 part. Power consumption 2XReef Octo 5000: 120watts BK skimmer:50watts 2xVortech wavemaker:70watts Daikin compressor:775watts Lighting:180watts Ato system:21watts Exhaust fans:16watts Refugium light:27watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanhas Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Thanks littleburger for your photos. It does help a lot. As for the water flow, do you add wavemaker or just through the water flow from the sump to the main tank? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LittleBurger Posted January 2, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 2, 2013 Thanks littleburger for your photos. It does help a lot. As for the water flow, do you add wavemaker or just through the water flow from the sump to the main tank? Thanks in advance. I didn't add any wave maker. Just water from main tank to sump. Initially if yr cheato size is small, it might get sweep away, out of position of the light. I tie a thread to 2 small rocks n weigh down the cheato. After it has increased its mass, it will not get sweep away, then I removed the anchoring rocks. Quote Tank size:36"x36"x24" Return pump" 2x Reef Octo 5000 Skimmer:BK Double Cone 200 on Reef Octopus DC 5500s. Wavemaker:2xVortech MP40wES Chemical filtration:1xeducator FR(biopellets) Chiller:1hp Daikin compressor. Lighting:2 x Kessil A360we Auto topup system: JBJ ATO + new jet 1200 Dosing system: Kamoer 3 channel. Additives: ESV 2 part. Power consumption 2XReef Octo 5000: 120watts BK skimmer:50watts 2xVortech wavemaker:70watts Daikin compressor:775watts Lighting:180watts Ato system:21watts Exhaust fans:16watts Refugium light:27watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldcoolwater Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Hi: I need some advise. I have a small ball of Cheato. After 6 weeks in the water about 30% of the total turnned white and softy. Light on for 18 hours a day, using LED 12K. 5" from the water level. What had went wrong and what can i do now. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuson Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I think 12000k does not work well with chaeto... I had previously use 12000k T5HO 24W tubes to grow it, and it will turn white and soft.. after I change to 6400K 13WPL only, the growth skyrocket and they never become white again... So I believe the colour temperature is the important factor here.. I only have very low flow going through.. But since my one is not tumbling, I will every 3 or 4 days turn it the other side to let it have light all around.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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