SRC Member solasido Posted July 22, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted July 22, 2012 Interesting... http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-08/nftt/index.php Any bro here has tried? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuEl Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Overdosing can cause or worsen cyano problems. Better off using biopellets, much safer & works on the same principle. 1 Quote Always something more important than fish. http://reefbuilders.com/2012/03/08/sps-pico-reef/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBoy Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I have used vodka for a few years to reduce NP. Work well without any problem. But now, in the market there is bio-pellet, might as well use them. Quote Member of : UEN: T08SS0098FMASS in Facebook Reefing in LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LittleBurger Posted July 23, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted July 23, 2012 Overdosing can cause or worsen cyano problems. Better off using biopellets, much safer & works on the same principle. I've got Biopellets n po4X4. My phosphate is undetectable. but nitrate still high at 8 or 12ppm. not sure is it u can't use both at same time. read tat pellets need ratio of phosphate n nitrate to work. So is it so? Quote Tank size:36"x36"x24" Return pump" 2x Reef Octo 5000 Skimmer:BK Double Cone 200 on Reef Octopus DC 5500s. Wavemaker:2xVortech MP40wES Chemical filtration:1xeducator FR(biopellets) Chiller:1hp Daikin compressor. Lighting:2 x Kessil A360we Auto topup system: JBJ ATO + new jet 1200 Dosing system: Kamoer 3 channel. Additives: ESV 2 part. Power consumption 2XReef Octo 5000: 120watts BK skimmer:50watts 2xVortech wavemaker:70watts Daikin compressor:775watts Lighting:180watts Ato system:21watts Exhaust fans:16watts Refugium light:27watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuEl Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Most test kits only test for inorganic phosphates. Even if this value is zero, there might still be organic phosphates present. I would'nt worry excessively about the nitrate levels, 8-12 ppm is manageable. Quote Always something more important than fish. http://reefbuilders.com/2012/03/08/sps-pico-reef/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tling Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Nitrate at 9ppm for sps coral ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member surreal1228 Posted July 23, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted July 23, 2012 Just pop up an case that if no3 is high, while po4 is very low, would bio pellets reduce no3 without po4? Or we have to add po4 to help? Quote :superman: :superman: :superman: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LittleBurger Posted July 23, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted July 23, 2012 Most test kits only test for inorganic phosphates. Even if this value is zero, there might still be organic phosphates present. I would'nt worry excessively about the nitrate levels, 8-12 ppm is manageable. thanks for e advice Quote Tank size:36"x36"x24" Return pump" 2x Reef Octo 5000 Skimmer:BK Double Cone 200 on Reef Octopus DC 5500s. Wavemaker:2xVortech MP40wES Chemical filtration:1xeducator FR(biopellets) Chiller:1hp Daikin compressor. Lighting:2 x Kessil A360we Auto topup system: JBJ ATO + new jet 1200 Dosing system: Kamoer 3 channel. Additives: ESV 2 part. Power consumption 2XReef Octo 5000: 120watts BK skimmer:50watts 2xVortech wavemaker:70watts Daikin compressor:775watts Lighting:180watts Ato system:21watts Exhaust fans:16watts Refugium light:27watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydrox78 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 using vodka method can pose high risk - cyano problems. I have done it , yes it did reduce my nitrate problem but later now i got cyano problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicklid Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Done it before. Do it slowly with increasing doage over a few days....quite effective but would advise finding out the root cause and eliminate at source. Eg light, overfeeding, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 how about using "Sugar Method" ??? Will it work the same as "Vodka Method" http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=898931 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Hi friends, i have tried using "Sugar Method" on my tank but it did not really help much for long term. I DIY and using Filter Screen as in Algae Turf Scrubber now. My NO3 had dropped from 50ppm to btw3-5pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmalawi Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 How about Vitamin C dosing? Anyone tried with good results? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member inwear Posted March 31, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted March 31, 2013 Can try biofuel fRom brightwell with good result. Hv Ben using for the past 1 year. My display tank mainly coral etc LPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazydevil Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Hi Guys, i have a 3x2x2. And is very frustrated battling a No3 problem. I have been using Biopellet for about 2 weeks and i tested that my No3 is really high. >40ppm. I quickly did a WC , and was deciding to do more every alternate days. I also pour abit of Prime seachem in the sump as well to "detoxify nitrate". So far tested my No2 and Phosphate level to be 0. My feeding routine will be daily 1x cube of mysis shrimp, 2 small cube of roti and some pellets. there are about 5 clowns, 2 tangs, 1 parrot, 2 chromis, 1 trigger, 1 dottyback. Am thinking if i should get a denitrator or should i get another FR for biopellet. Or is there any other suggestions that i can bring my No3 down to a more sustainable level? Thanks for any advice given! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement_jr Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 i suggest, reduce feeding and regular water change at larger %. Quote The spirit of sharing... always remember forum is like its name - forum Singapore Reef Club – We are an online discussion community which aim to provide quality information about setting up and keeping a marine reef aquarium. By joining us as a members, you will be able to learn and share your experience in this hobby and at the same time making some friends here !! We hope by educating the public about the marine hobby, we will be able to create greater awareness of the fragility of our coral reefs as well as loving each and every living fish / corals we purchase as a responsible reefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julius Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hi Guys, i have a 3x2x2. And is very frustrated battling a No3 problem. I have been using Biopellet for about 2 weeks and i tested that my No3 is really high. >40ppm. I quickly did a WC , and was deciding to do more every alternate days. I also pour abit of Prime seachem in the sump as well to "detoxify nitrate". So far tested my No2 and Phosphate level to be 0. My feeding routine will be daily 1x cube of mysis shrimp, 2 small cube of roti and some pellets. there are about 5 clowns, 2 tangs, 1 parrot, 2 chromis, 1 trigger, 1 dottyback. Am thinking if i should get a denitrator or should i get another FR for biopellet. Or is there any other suggestions that i can bring my No3 down to a more sustainable level? Thanks for any advice given! Dose bacteria that are specifically designed for biopellet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazydevil Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Dose bacteria that are specifically designed for biopellet Currently using brightwell microbacter 7. Is there a specific dosing for NP biopellets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazydevil Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 i suggest, reduce feeding and regular water change at larger %. Clement thanks for the input. I am trying to reduce feeding to alternate days (for mysis and roti) but daily for pellets. Am thinking of trying to get long term sustainability approach in controlling nitrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement_jr Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 you may want to adopt this method if situation is bad, http://saltaquarium.about.com/od/nitratecontrol/ss/sbsnitratereduction_2.htm what i read from many hobbyists is that water change at 20/30% every few days doesn't help, as the intervals allows those toxic to buildup again. the link shows a very daring move to reduce no3 n p04 and other toxic in a one shot attempt, but u need to have alot alot of water to do so. The best i tried is manage to change 60% in am and 40% in pm. it does bring down n03 down swiftly. after then i readjust my feeding and introduce media to control n03 n p04. (started biopellets, rowa and vodka) Quote The spirit of sharing... always remember forum is like its name - forum Singapore Reef Club – We are an online discussion community which aim to provide quality information about setting up and keeping a marine reef aquarium. By joining us as a members, you will be able to learn and share your experience in this hobby and at the same time making some friends here !! We hope by educating the public about the marine hobby, we will be able to create greater awareness of the fragility of our coral reefs as well as loving each and every living fish / corals we purchase as a responsible reefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julius Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Currently using brightwell microbacter 7. Is there a specific dosing for NP biopellets? Iwarna has such a product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazydevil Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 you may want to adopt this method if situation is bad, http://saltaquarium.about.com/od/nitratecontrol/ss/sbsnitratereduction_2.htm what i read from many hobbyists is that water change at 20/30% every few days doesn't help, as the intervals allows those toxic to buildup again. the link shows a very daring move to reduce no3 n p04 and other toxic in a one shot attempt, but u need to have alot alot of water to do so. The best i tried is manage to change 60% in am and 40% in pm. it does bring down n03 down swiftly. after then i readjust my feeding and introduce media to control n03 n p04. (started biopellets, rowa and vodka) Woah thanks for the suggestion, the method is like changing all the water in the tank. I guess that is what i am doing at the moment but at a lower %. Think i will do more WC over the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnymau Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Woah thanks for the suggestion, the method is like changing all the water in the tank. I guess that is what i am doing at the moment but at a lower %. Think i will do more WC over the weekend. I am dosing venigar instead, fantastic result! No cyno and stuff. Of course water change cannot be void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearnofish Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 bio pellets reactor and denitrator, which is better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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