SRC Member kaykay Posted May 17, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted May 17, 2012 2'x1.5'x1.5'H (with ios space of 2ftx6inch at the back) so display tank is 2'x1'x1.5'H Skimmer in 2nd compartment. Return pump ehiem1250 in 3rd. Millions of Microbubbles were returned to the display tank once I turn on the skimmer. Tried all ways possible with my limited mind. 1. Stuffed a small piece of filter floss at the outlet pipe of the skimmer. Result: skimmer overflowed. Scrapped the plan immediately. 2. Rotated the skimmer so that the outlet is further to the return pump compartment. (this is illogical flow as the skimmer inlet takes in the skimmed clean water again). Rotated the return pump so it sucks water from the furthest side from the skimmer outlet. 3. Stuffed a piece of filter floss in between the baffle between the skimmer and return pump. 4. Wrapped a 200micron filter sock (albeit loosely) around the skimmer outlet. 5. Finally stuffed a piece of the filter sock in the baffles together with the filter floss. The micro bubbles are still there!!! I'm at my wits end already. Now I totally left the skimmer off. Just kinda gave up. The only thing I haven't tried is to sew a piece of filter sock and tie it securely at the skimmer outlet, hoping it will absorb the bubbles. But I'm quite pessimistic on this.. Note. Skimmer atman pumps at 1,350L/hr. Return Ehiem1250 pumps at 1,200L/hr. Does this have any effect? Note 2. I'm building an upflow algae scrubber at the first compartment of the ios. Now I'm banking my hopes on the effectiveness of this uas, which will render the skimmer redundant. If it fails, I'll be back at square one. Again. **Tearing hair out** So if my uas backup plan fails, reefers pls contribute practical ideas on what else I can do. Thanks!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tunicate Posted May 17, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted May 17, 2012 Can show a video or some pics of the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponsor dr evil Posted May 17, 2012 Sponsor Share Posted May 17, 2012 Can u try elevate the skimmer? So that the skimmer is 1/3 submerge. That will help with the micro bubbles. My 2 cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kaykay Posted May 17, 2012 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 17, 2012 The skimmer is currently about half-submerged. Will try elevating it higher tomorrow. Thanks Razali. Will try posting some pics or vids tomorrow. Will chronicle the Before and after of the elevating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogykogy Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Actually i do have the same prob.will be good if we can a solution for this. Quote 2 FEET CUBE REEF DISCO(60cmx60cmx60cm) TOTAL 286 LITERS WITH SUMP LIGHTS:PHAROS LED 90 WATTS WITH WIRELESS CONTROLLER RETURN PUMP:EHEIM 1260CHILLER:HAILEA 150A + EHEIM COMPACT 1000 WITH EXT TEMP CONTROLLERWAVEMAKER:JEBAO WP25REACTOR:TLF PHOSBAN REACTOR 150 WITH EHEIM 600(ROWAPHOS)SKIMMER:H&H S150 WITH AQUABEE 2000/1 MEDIA:BACTERIA KING GLASS CLEANER:ALGAE FREE PIRANHA FLOAT WITH EASY BLADE ATO:TUNZE NANO OSMOLATOR 3152 RO/DI PURIFIER:ZeRO EX5 - RO/DI ULTRA 200 WITH HM DIGITAL DM-1 IN-LINE DUAL TDS METER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kaykay Posted May 18, 2012 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 18, 2012 Hi... I've raised the skimmer, now it's only less than 1/3 submerged. However, due to the sheer amount of bubbles produced, some still got returned to the display tank. Currently dosing brightwell microbact daily. Could this be linked to the high amount of bubbles? Switched off the skimmer after dosing the microbact, as recommended on the bottle instructions. If don't remember wrongly, there weren't so much mbubbles initially. So is the dosing the culprit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SRC Member tunicate Posted May 19, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted May 19, 2012 Are you able to add a baffle between the skimmer & your return pump? Let the water go under the baffle before reaching the return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seafan84 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I myself is using this skimmer. From personal experience, this skimmer does give out microbubles. What i do to prevent microbubbles from going back to my main tank let the water go under the baffle like what bro tunicate mentions and I also include some filter pad or active carbon in a filter bag in between the baffles. With that I do not have any microbubbles returning to my tank. take note: dont forget to change/clean the ilter pad or active carbon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kaykay Posted May 20, 2012 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 20, 2012 Thanks for the advice. I've placed some filter floss + a small cut-out piece of filter sock at the baffles between the skimmer & return, though not much. Will increase the floss and add a bag of carbon there as advised. Plus, will be elevating the skimmer permanently too, as it did drastically reduced the micro bubbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kaykay Posted May 21, 2012 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 21, 2012 Finally constructed a PVC stand with 4t-joints, forming a 3-legged short structure, and placed a pc of egg crate as base for the skimmer. (See past the pump at the foreground in the pic) Then stuffed 2 pcs of floss between the baffles. But the current kept pushing the flosses halfway out of the baffles. The bag of carbon I stuffed at the baffles are worse! It could not hold position at all. Got difficulty stuffing in. Even after managing to stuff in, it got pushed out in 3 seconds. So gave up that idea, and left the bag of carbon sitting next to the return pump Well, at least the micro bubbles seemed controlled alot. There are still stray micro bubbles returned to the display tank, but quantity is so so so tolerable now. Thanks for all your advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 U try using those japanese bio mat to put in the buffles which are very stiff and most imptly it will not get clog up so easily. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kaykay Posted May 21, 2012 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 21, 2012 Bro, care to elaborate more on the bio mat? I assume you're not talking about those amethyst bio mats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiya Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Hi, noticed that you will be building your UAS on the first compartment and leaving your skimmer in the 2nd? Wont the skimmer pull out your pods from the UAS? Wil you be able to put your skimmer in the 1st compartment instead? What I did was to have some live rocks in the compartment of the skimmer so the micro bubbles stick to the LR. Hope that helps.. Cheers Quote 4 x 2 x 1 low tank DIY LED Trying to minimise equipment as much as possible. Would love to make new friends in the reefing community - PM me! A short video of my tank on a Sunday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Bro, care to elaborate more on the bio mat? I assume you're not talking about those amethyst bio mats? Lol try google japanese bio filter mat. cheers Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kaykay Posted May 25, 2012 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 25, 2012 Hi bro chiya, unfortunately that's the space constraints I'm facing with the iOS. I somemore it an oversized for my tank (over rated by 3 times- greedy me). Just hoping a portion of the pods population escapes the skimmer, don't get chopped up by the Eheim, and returns to the display. Haha. As for the live rocks solution, can biohome perform the same function to stick the microbubbles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kaykay Posted May 25, 2012 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 25, 2012 I meant oversized skimmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kaykay Posted May 30, 2012 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 30, 2012 I did another adjustment. I made sure that the water level in the return pump compartment stays high at a certain level. This way the micro bubbles escapes to the surface more than being sucked into the pump. Yeah.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member John Deroe Kenedy Posted June 15, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted June 15, 2012 Me also got same problem with my HOB BM E3 just bought, i'm waiting for a few days to let it kick in. From what i observe, the bubbles in the main comparment of the skimmer is leaking out into the outflow intake, already adjusted air intake and even use the black sponge = same, remove sponge = big bubbles.. SianZ.. Microbubbles making me stress more than my LS stressness <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/s7IYR_rELyE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Quote Teh'sTankSetup Decomm on 18/8/2012 Tank: 2x1x1 Rimless Tank (Sumpless) Lighting: Aquazonic 2x24watts T5 (Actinic x Sun White) Moonlight: Acardia 1W Led Light (Blue) Filter: ISTA Max Care Cannister Skimmer: Bubble Magus E3 Chiller: Resun CL450 (Aquazonic Evo Pump) Wave: Boyu WM-25 Commissioned 20/9/2012 Tank: 3x2x2.5 Lighting: 250w DeLighting MH/ 2x 39w Delighting Diy T5 ATI Blue Plus Skimmer: H&S Skimmer Type 110-F2000 Chiller: CL450 (Aquazonic Evo Pump) Return Pump: Eheim 1260 Reactor: D&D H2Ocean FMR 75 (ADA 1500 Pump)(Rowaphos) Wavemaker: 2x SunSun Wavemaker (3000L) Incoming: Conch ll Basic ATO System/Tunze Osmolator Magic Marine 3CH Dosing Pump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member starfish123 Posted June 16, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted June 16, 2012 hi, sorry for hijacking this thread, my skimmer is also bm nac 3+, and right now the plug is the two round pin plug, so must i buy an adapter for the pump plug? and is the cover for the collection cup very loose? if it is then if the skimmer skims too fast then won't the cover fly out? Hope those who use this skimmer or those who know can advise. Quote  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member John Deroe Kenedy Posted June 16, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted June 16, 2012 hi, sorry for hijacking this thread, my skimmer is also bm nac 3+, and right now the plug is the two round pin plug, so must i buy an adapter for the pump plug? and is the cover for the collection cup very loose? if it is then if the skimmer skims too fast then won't the cover fly out? Hope those who use this skimmer or those who know can advise. pump plug?? just buy an 2 pin adaptor or a multi pin adaptor la Yes the cover is loose.. i've never seen bubbles that are strong enough to push a lids out.. Quote Teh'sTankSetup Decomm on 18/8/2012 Tank: 2x1x1 Rimless Tank (Sumpless) Lighting: Aquazonic 2x24watts T5 (Actinic x Sun White) Moonlight: Acardia 1W Led Light (Blue) Filter: ISTA Max Care Cannister Skimmer: Bubble Magus E3 Chiller: Resun CL450 (Aquazonic Evo Pump) Wave: Boyu WM-25 Commissioned 20/9/2012 Tank: 3x2x2.5 Lighting: 250w DeLighting MH/ 2x 39w Delighting Diy T5 ATI Blue Plus Skimmer: H&S Skimmer Type 110-F2000 Chiller: CL450 (Aquazonic Evo Pump) Return Pump: Eheim 1260 Reactor: D&D H2Ocean FMR 75 (ADA 1500 Pump)(Rowaphos) Wavemaker: 2x SunSun Wavemaker (3000L) Incoming: Conch ll Basic ATO System/Tunze Osmolator Magic Marine 3CH Dosing Pump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member starfish123 Posted June 16, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted June 16, 2012 but is the round one... i chuck it into the socket and immediately my system short circuit, but pump still working but the rest all not working Quote  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member starfish123 Posted June 16, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted June 16, 2012 pump plug?? just buy an 2 pin adaptor or a multi pin adaptor la Yes the cover is loose.. i've never seen bubbles that are strong enough to push a lids out.. BTW you are using e3 right? is the pump atman ph1100? Quote  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member John Deroe Kenedy Posted June 16, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted June 16, 2012 but is the round one... i chuck it into the socket and immediately my system short circuit, but pump still working but the rest all not working try changing ur extention wire or ur adaptor.. i;ve used a multi adapter before which is spoilt causes a blackout in my home.. BTW you are using e3 right? is the pump atman ph1100? rock SP1000 Quote Teh'sTankSetup Decomm on 18/8/2012 Tank: 2x1x1 Rimless Tank (Sumpless) Lighting: Aquazonic 2x24watts T5 (Actinic x Sun White) Moonlight: Acardia 1W Led Light (Blue) Filter: ISTA Max Care Cannister Skimmer: Bubble Magus E3 Chiller: Resun CL450 (Aquazonic Evo Pump) Wave: Boyu WM-25 Commissioned 20/9/2012 Tank: 3x2x2.5 Lighting: 250w DeLighting MH/ 2x 39w Delighting Diy T5 ATI Blue Plus Skimmer: H&S Skimmer Type 110-F2000 Chiller: CL450 (Aquazonic Evo Pump) Return Pump: Eheim 1260 Reactor: D&D H2Ocean FMR 75 (ADA 1500 Pump)(Rowaphos) Wavemaker: 2x SunSun Wavemaker (3000L) Incoming: Conch ll Basic ATO System/Tunze Osmolator Magic Marine 3CH Dosing Pump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member starfish123 Posted June 16, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted June 16, 2012 ok changed socket and now the skimmer is working... any advise on the flow rate of bm nac3+? as in the one on the return... also having problems with microbubbles now... any advise Quote  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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