SRC Member LittleBurger Posted December 12, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted December 12, 2011 Planning to hang light fixture on false ceiling. Anyone try tat? Wat is the name of the kit? I know for wall u get the wall plugs... But for false ceiling have no idea. Thks. Quote Tank size:36"x36"x24" Return pump" 2x Reef Octo 5000 Skimmer:BK Double Cone 200 on Reef Octopus DC 5500s. Wavemaker:2xVortech MP40wES Chemical filtration:1xeducator FR(biopellets) Chiller:1hp Daikin compressor. Lighting:2 x Kessil A360we Auto topup system: JBJ ATO + new jet 1200 Dosing system: Kamoer 3 channel. Additives: ESV 2 part. Power consumption 2XReef Octo 5000: 120watts BK skimmer:50watts 2xVortech wavemaker:70watts Daikin compressor:775watts Lighting:180watts Ato system:21watts Exhaust fans:16watts Refugium light:27watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Ketchup Posted December 12, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted December 12, 2011 for false ceiling i think they will need to cut a hole, insert a wooden plank to reinforce before you can mount the lighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n3xt Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Hi, If the lighting is not too heavy, you can use butterfly plug to hold it. Can get from any hardware shop. http://cxfasteners.en.alibaba.com/product/316636623-210166345/butterfly_toggle_plug_anchor.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LittleBurger Posted December 12, 2011 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 12, 2011 Hi, If the lighting is not too heavy, you can use butterfly plug to hold it. Can get from any hardware shop. http://cxfasteners.en.alibaba.com/product/316636623-210166345/butterfly_toggle_plug_anchor.html Thanks for the tip everyone. Looks like drilling on concrete is the safest. Quote Tank size:36"x36"x24" Return pump" 2x Reef Octo 5000 Skimmer:BK Double Cone 200 on Reef Octopus DC 5500s. Wavemaker:2xVortech MP40wES Chemical filtration:1xeducator FR(biopellets) Chiller:1hp Daikin compressor. Lighting:2 x Kessil A360we Auto topup system: JBJ ATO + new jet 1200 Dosing system: Kamoer 3 channel. Additives: ESV 2 part. Power consumption 2XReef Octo 5000: 120watts BK skimmer:50watts 2xVortech wavemaker:70watts Daikin compressor:775watts Lighting:180watts Ato system:21watts Exhaust fans:16watts Refugium light:27watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tropic Posted December 15, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted December 15, 2011 drilling is one thing and the mount need to hoist the lights up if required maintenance another. If its fixed at certain height than ok. I have always wanted this " motorized light lifter" but should be ex if can get locally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member reefer guy Posted December 15, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted December 15, 2011 using butterfly plugs on false ceiling is not a sure bet -- gypsum ceiling is made of soft material and chances of giving way on a heavy load is very high. Ketchup is right - reinforcing it with timber internally is the solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member comycus Posted December 15, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted December 15, 2011 I was contemplating a similar setup as well. You should get a reliable handyman to reinforce your false ceiling and hang your fixture. Eventually settled for custom built brackets mounted at the back of my tank as there was minimal drilling, and in my unqualified opinion, more secure than mounting on false ceiling. Quote My old 3ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member raymus Posted December 15, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'm in this line previously. Drilling fixing climbing over air con deck etc. Drilling , hooking is my piece of cake. Trust me, butterfly will confirm give way to hang the light fixture on a false ceiling. Insert a timber as what other said. Or mount a L backet on the concrete wall .. Quote ---2Ft Cube by MarineLife---2008-2009 http://w w w.absolutereef . com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12369 Skimmer: Deltec APF600 feeder by Eheim 1250 Lighting: Solite 150MH 14k Supplement: Giesemann T5 Razor, Actinic Plus ~22k Top-up: Tunze Osmolator Universal 3155 Return: Eheim 1260 Reactor: Skimz FR Rowaphos --------------------------------------------------------- ---1.5Ft Cube by Iwarna---2010- ??? http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/index.php?/topic/95312-nano-15-cube/ Tank: 1.5Ft Cube,Sump with Chengai Wood Cabinate skimmer: Reef Oct Nw110 Return: Eheim 1250 Chiller: Hailea HC150A with feeder Eheim Compact 1000 Reactor: Phosphan with Rowaphos Lighting: MaxSpec G2 110w,DELighting T5 ATI*2,Giesemann T5 Razor ATI*2 WaveMaker: MP10 VorTech Top Up : ATO with Tank -------------------------Your Advice is my Success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LittleBurger Posted December 15, 2011 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'm in this line previously. Drilling fixing climbing over air con deck etc. Drilling , hooking is my piece of cake. Trust me, butterfly will confirm give way to hang the light fixture on a false ceiling. Insert a timber as what other said. Or mount a L backet on the concrete wall .. If the light set is light? The radion is 5kg on paper spec. So i guess it is light compare to mh. I've found the nylon bolt plug. Is tat wat u call the butterfly? So inserting a timber is actually the timber doing the support? The gypsum bd hole will collapse over time? Quote Tank size:36"x36"x24" Return pump" 2x Reef Octo 5000 Skimmer:BK Double Cone 200 on Reef Octopus DC 5500s. Wavemaker:2xVortech MP40wES Chemical filtration:1xeducator FR(biopellets) Chiller:1hp Daikin compressor. Lighting:2 x Kessil A360we Auto topup system: JBJ ATO + new jet 1200 Dosing system: Kamoer 3 channel. Additives: ESV 2 part. Power consumption 2XReef Octo 5000: 120watts BK skimmer:50watts 2xVortech wavemaker:70watts Daikin compressor:775watts Lighting:180watts Ato system:21watts Exhaust fans:16watts Refugium light:27watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tropic Posted December 15, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted December 15, 2011 i think by inserting the timber it acts as a support and weight distribution. the false ceiling itself is supported by some metal frames internally so the timber is sitting on it instead of the false ceiling. if you drill directly on the false ceiling board,abit risky. you wouldn't want an expensive lighting inside the water when you go back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member raymus Posted December 15, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted December 15, 2011 If the light set is light? The radion is 5kg on paper spec. So i guess it is light compare to mh. I've found the nylon bolt plug. Is tat wat u call the butterfly? So inserting a timber is actually the timber doing the support? The gypsum bd hole will collapse over time? Butterfly serve the same purpose be it a metal spit opening type or white color spit opening type. Most people refer to the white plastic type. The split will be insert after drilling a hole similar or smaller to the size of the head. Bend the split end and insert in thro hammering. Once the whole plug insert, the split end will open and hold inside. This is good for hold on the side wall and not ceiling. Coz CG is directly down. The hole side is soft and might give way. Even it will not drop, but your plug will be slightly been pull down . Inserting timber is opening ur ceiling with a hand size allowance to insert a wood inside. Then u mount the screw from below and go thro the wood. Since the wood is long, the whole support area is bigger. More stable . But hassle is u need to cover back the hole u create to insert the timber. Quote ---2Ft Cube by MarineLife---2008-2009 http://w w w.absolutereef . com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12369 Skimmer: Deltec APF600 feeder by Eheim 1250 Lighting: Solite 150MH 14k Supplement: Giesemann T5 Razor, Actinic Plus ~22k Top-up: Tunze Osmolator Universal 3155 Return: Eheim 1260 Reactor: Skimz FR Rowaphos --------------------------------------------------------- ---1.5Ft Cube by Iwarna---2010- ??? http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/index.php?/topic/95312-nano-15-cube/ Tank: 1.5Ft Cube,Sump with Chengai Wood Cabinate skimmer: Reef Oct Nw110 Return: Eheim 1250 Chiller: Hailea HC150A with feeder Eheim Compact 1000 Reactor: Phosphan with Rowaphos Lighting: MaxSpec G2 110w,DELighting T5 ATI*2,Giesemann T5 Razor ATI*2 WaveMaker: MP10 VorTech Top Up : ATO with Tank -------------------------Your Advice is my Success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LittleBurger Posted December 24, 2011 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 24, 2011 Butterfly serve the same purpose be it a metal spit opening type or white color spit opening type. Most people refer to the white plastic type. The split will be insert after drilling a hole similar or smaller to the size of the head. Bend the split end and insert in thro hammering. Once the whole plug insert, the split end will open and hold inside. This is good for hold on the side wall and not ceiling. Coz CG is directly down. The hole side is soft and might give way. Even it will not drop, but your plug will be slightly been pull down . Inserting timber is opening ur ceiling with a hand size allowance to insert a wood inside. Then u mount the screw from below and go thro the wood. Since the wood is long, the whole support area is bigger. More stable . But hassle is u need to cover back the hole u create to insert the timber. Hi bro for the detailed info. Had decided to use the butterfly plug. Quote Tank size:36"x36"x24" Return pump" 2x Reef Octo 5000 Skimmer:BK Double Cone 200 on Reef Octopus DC 5500s. Wavemaker:2xVortech MP40wES Chemical filtration:1xeducator FR(biopellets) Chiller:1hp Daikin compressor. Lighting:2 x Kessil A360we Auto topup system: JBJ ATO + new jet 1200 Dosing system: Kamoer 3 channel. Additives: ESV 2 part. Power consumption 2XReef Octo 5000: 120watts BK skimmer:50watts 2xVortech wavemaker:70watts Daikin compressor:775watts Lighting:180watts Ato system:21watts Exhaust fans:16watts Refugium light:27watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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