why makes a person quit this hobby?

[LittleBurger]

Who like to know the views of pple who quit and those who quited n come back again.

When time is a factor, is it no time to change water? I think the most tedious chore in marine is water changing.

When money is a factor, is it the electricity bill is high? Why is it high is because there's a lot of gadgets?

these r the only 2 factors I could think of.

If dosing all those additives n strong skimmer, does it reduce the water change frequency?

Do we really need to use so much gadget? Me only using a skimmer, fr(total 3 pumps), a mp40, a chiller n self DIY led light set. Dosing is manual using esv 2part. Esv mag, microlobe bacteria.

I everyday go lfs must buy something. But now no more doing tat. is it when the excitement of buying n stocking no more than the interest die down?

[Bulldozer]

- Interest Died

- Financial Situation changes due priorities in life

- Changes in Environment that doesn't permit one to have hobby.

(eg. Used to have Tropical Tank when I was younger. Then have to stay together with my in-laws and they do not fancy Tanks at home, so I stop my hobby for quite a while till I have my new home).

[zorden]

due to job commitment. have to travel therefore have to KIV my tank hobby. coming back to the darkside soon

[skinbone]

Actually i believe that once a reefer forever a reefer. Even when they decomm, they will someday find their way back. One of the reasons why people may quit this hobby is due to the lack of like minded people to discuss and involve in this hobby. This hobby requires a closely nit fraternity. You need friends who love the hobby and who get equally excited at your achievements as well as their own.

What i see lacking in this hobby is communication among reefers. Pasar Malam activities not counted! Hahah. Seriously, when u start a tank thread and people don't get really excited, then it takes a marine biologist to keep up with the learning and commitment required in reef maintenance, which many of us are not. You need people who are experienced and patient to guide the new guys and the new guys must also gather a few newbies to start the hobby so as to learn and speak at the same frequency. Cause in all honesty, the 'old birds' have little patience to answer newbie questions 20times a month. Agree?

And please for goodness sakes, stop having fruit racks for a reef. Be innovative and artistic in your rockscape. Learn from the japanese. Even the europeans are starting to abandon the fruit rack stacking methods. Challenge yourself to set up specimen dedicated reefs. Actually IMO, a few(maximum 10 different types or genus) large mature and colorful colonies is way nicer than being a coral collector and ending up with a rojak tank. Pay attention to symmetry and form and color distribution. It will create a deeper impact than having 200 specimens cramped into a 3footer reef.

When you realize that your reefing hobby is not about collecting all the specimens in the world, the hobby gets less straining on the pockets and also more meaningful.

just my 2 cents worth...make it $1.

Happy reefing.

[pokmingsheng]

Actually i believe that once a reefer forever a reefer. Even when they decomm, they will someday find their way back. One of the reasons why people may quit this hobby is due to the lack of like minded people to discuss and involve in this hobby. This hobby requires a closely nit fraternity. You need friends who love the hobby and who get equally excited at your achievements as well as their own.

What i see lacking in this hobby is communication among reefers. Pasar Malam activities not counted! Hahah. Seriously, when u start a tank thread and people don't get really excited, then it takes a marine biologist to keep up with the learning and commitment required in reef maintenance, which many of us are not. You need people who are experienced and patient to guide the new guys and the new guys must also gather a few newbies to start the hobby so as to learn and speak at the same frequency. Cause in all honesty, the 'old birds' have little patience to answer newbie questions 20times a month. Agree?

And please for goodness sakes, stop having fruit racks for a reef. Be innovative and artistic in your rockscape. Learn from the japanese. Even the europeans are starting to abandon the fruit rack stacking methods. Challenge yourself to set up specimen dedicated reefs. Actually IMO, a few(maximum 10 different types or genus) large mature and colorful colonies is way nicer than being a coral collector and ending up with a rojak tank. Pay attention to symmetry and form and color distribution. It will create a deeper impact than having 200 specimens cramped into a 3footer reef.

When you realize that your reefing hobby is not about collecting all the specimens in the world, the hobby gets less straining on the pockets and also more meaningful.

just my 2 cents worth...make it $1.

Happy reefing.

+1

well said..

totally agree with you...

[Jameshong]

IMHO, the Cost & Time of maintaining this lovely marine hobby is the main factors that causes reefers to decom !

[allantang]

IMHO, the Cost & Time of maintaining this lovely marine hobby is the main factors that causes reefers to decom !

agree.. face the same problem when i had a bigger tank. so down size works well and I get to keep at a smaller scale with lesser time spend n cost.

[allantang]

Try doing this!!! ^__________________________^

[skinbone]

Try doing this!!! ^__________________________^

Now we are talking...See how they leave space everywhere? They have a theme. Not just a huge bunch of rocks dumped into a tank and then a ridiculously huge collection of rare frags stuck so close you don't even know where the focus point is. Then again, it is personal. Hahah....cover my ###### first.

[Jameshong]

Try doing this!!! ^__________________________^

You need at least 3x3x2 tank to have this effect :lol: !

[LittleBurger]

Actually i believe that once a reefer forever a reefer. Even when they decomm, they will someday find their way back. One of the reasons why people may quit this hobby is due to the lack of like minded people to discuss and involve in this hobby. This hobby requires a closely nit fraternity. You need friends who love the hobby and who get equally excited at your achievements as well as their own.

What i see lacking in this hobby is communication among reefers. Pasar Malam activities not counted! Hahah. Seriously, when u start a tank thread and people don't get really excited, then it takes a marine biologist to keep up with the learning and commitment required in reef maintenance, which many of us are not. You need people who are experienced and patient to guide the new guys and the new guys must also gather a few newbies to start the hobby so as to learn and speak at the same frequency. Cause in all honesty, the 'old birds' have little patience to answer newbie questions 20times a month. Agree?

And please for goodness sakes, stop having fruit racks for a reef. Be innovative and artistic in your rockscape. Learn from the japanese. Even the europeans are starting to abandon the fruit rack stacking methods. Challenge yourself to set up specimen dedicated reefs. Actually IMO, a few(maximum 10 different types or genus) large mature and colorful colonies is way nicer than being a coral collector and ending up with a rojak tank. Pay attention to symmetry and form and color distribution. It will create a deeper impact than having 200 specimens cramped into a 3footer reef.

When you realize that your reefing hobby is not about collecting all the specimens in the world, the hobby gets less straining on the pockets and also more meaningful.

just my 2 cents worth...make it $1.

Happy reefing.

I feel time and money goes hand in hand. If a person dose lots of stuffs to a tank, then probably more time will be spent on "maintaining" it. so in order to reduce this "maintenance" time, automatic systems will be look into. More money pump in. I'm wondering can keeping a reef tank be "cheap". You see lots of different brands of additives in the market. Do we really need so much of these? I remembered a owner of a LFS told me just do more water change will be enough.

I'm in the midst of considering to upgrade my tank to a rimless one, with thorough design, hoping to minimize the maintenance. One idea would be splitting the return line to multiple small lines and the LR will encase them to hide them. the flow from within the LR will probably keep most of the suspended particles from settling on the rock.

Also trying to see if I can tap the solar power to run some of the fans. I saw the echiller from deltec and if we use solar power to power the fans in the day time.

Sometimes I see the old birds decomming, n wonders why they r doing it. Is it something they realize down the rd to reefing.

I read somewhere from a book from libray abt creating a portion of the reef, there are several parts of the reef which hobbyist can create but so far the author said he only sees people dumping everything into it. I think creating a reef habitat in the tank whereby u can sit down and watch the tank habitants' behaviour and see them grow will be generating sustainable interest in the long run.

[LittleBurger]

agree.. face the same problem when i had a bigger tank. so down size works well and I get to keep at a smaller scale with lesser time spend n cost.

So what is the size u having now? mine is 36 x 20 x 24. Am thinking of 4x2.5.2 with external overflow. but am thinking should i go for 4x2.5x2 with internal overflow.

[cool guy]

Another factor people decom is tat when e tank crash... Jus imaging after 2 or 3 or more years of hard work go down e drain in jus 2 or 3days...

[iskay]

Potential cause: Algae Bloom

[skinbone]

Potential cause: Algae Bloom

lol..marine planted tank. Good for Tangs.

[cjh]

Actually i believe that once a reefer forever a reefer. Even when they decomm, they will someday find their way back. One of the reasons why people may quit this hobby is due to the lack of like minded people to discuss and involve in this hobby. This hobby requires a closely nit fraternity. You need friends who love the hobby and who get equally excited at your achievements as well as their own.

What i see lacking in this hobby is communication among reefers. Pasar Malam activities not counted! Hahah. Seriously, when u start a tank thread and people don't get really excited, then it takes a marine biologist to keep up with the learning and commitment required in reef maintenance, which many of us are not. You need people who are experienced and patient to guide the new guys and the new guys must also gather a few newbies to start the hobby so as to learn and speak at the same frequency. Cause in all honesty, the 'old birds' have little patience to answer newbie questions 20times a month. Agree?

And please for goodness sakes, stop having fruit racks for a reef. Be innovative and artistic in your rockscape. Learn from the japanese. Even the europeans are starting to abandon the fruit rack stacking methods. Challenge yourself to set up specimen dedicated reefs. Actually IMO, a few(maximum 10 different types or genus) large mature and colorful colonies is way nicer than being a coral collector and ending up with a rojak tank. Pay attention to symmetry and form and color distribution. It will create a deeper impact than having 200 specimens cramped into a 3footer reef.

When you realize that your reefing hobby is not about collecting all the specimens in the world, the hobby gets less straining on the pockets and also more meaningful.

just my 2 cents worth...make it $1.

Happy reefing.

totally agree...

[Oprime]

I guess money really isn't so much of a factor once you are already in it. A marine tank needs constant care and attention. Leave for a week even after giving someone detailed instructions and briefings results in some sort of damage. No one cares about your tank - only you do. You need time and patience. Thats about it.