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Hi Gouldian, A really big thank you to you.. After the fruitful visit to your place I think I'm more confident in getting things right this time round.. Yes I'll work towards a "stress free" environment for my fish n corals..

Hi colin, thank u v much for sharing your experience with me, I really appreciate it.. We share the same interest in tangs, but unlike u, I couldn't keep as many as tangs as I would like...I think the key reason could be that my tank wasn't as established as yours.. My experience with ich wasn't that good..during my previous tank crash I had some fish that was feeding v well but still succumbed to ich..that's y I always panic when I see spots n will try all means to remove them..but then again, your theory could be right, cos back then it could b the high NO3 caused by the heavy feeding that killed them.. (it's always hard to balance between the 2.. ) Though it seems hypo did work for me..I think I'll keep it in the freezer since most of u guys advised against it...maybe what really worked for me during my past QTs was the heavy feeding.. I've to agree, those gluttons that I had nv really poise any prob to me...all except the blue tang that started the mysterious disease which subsequently crashed my tank. In fact, the cause of it all could be due to the consistent harassment by my ABT on my blue tang..I nv bother initially cos I tot the blue tang that was with me for more than a yr should b strong enuff to withstand it..but with the prolong stress it developed some mysterious white spot that eventually killed it... I like the way u put it : "...reefing is about not doing anything constant to the system, but letting it stabilise..." I'll be working towards that for sure... Bro care to share how u managed to keep your parameters like NO3 in check with all the heavy feeding? I can't seem to get a balance between the two n always end up feeding much less..

Hi LaW, thanx for sharing your experience on hypo with me.. For me, to b fair the hypo method hasn't let me down yet, n it has worked for me so far.. But recently I got a chance to learn from a senior reefer n his view is that hypo isn't exactly natural to marine fish, n putting them under such condition will only create more stress to them.. So I guess I'll be working towards removing the stress instead of removing the ich.. Juz a thought, maybe hypo worked for me cos during the QT period I pumped the fish up with lots of food, so improved their immune system n hence the ich can't really get into them..

Hi kareen, nice to hear from u again.. Thankfully, the v pretty lemonpeel that I got from u survived the tank crash n is currently recovering in my QT. It seems those fish that I got from fellow reefers r always the strongest. In fact, none died from disease infection.. I've to admit that I was overcome by my love for tangs..n though logic tells me that I shouldn't try to keep so many tangs in a fairly new tank..the side of me took a gamble n then hoped that I'll b able to keep many tangs like those established setups that I've seen in this forum.. I'll try to go really slowly this time round, n hopefully by going into corals, it can take my attention off those fish in the LFS.. Juz kidding, I know discipline n patience is still the key to success.. Btw since I still have some fish with me now in the QT, can the fish go in b4 the corals?

Here's a look at my tank before everything fell apart... http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc206/O...nt=P7180007.flv

Here's a brief history of my tank... Started this 4 footer as a fowlr cos of my love for pygmy angels and also inexperience with corals. Due to lessons from previous disasters, I hypo 'all' my fish in a quarintine tank at least 1.5 mths before intro into my main tank...'all', but 4 fish...a PBT, a cleaner wrasse, a potter angel n my all time favourite AT... Prior to intro, the 4 fish were conditioned by a LFS for abt a mth n showed no sign of spots...n silly me, being afraid to put the delicate AT n potter thru my usual QT routine, decided to put them straight into the main tank... That's when all hell broke lose...AT n PBT start having ich, and ABT's black ich resurfaced after previously recovered in QT...In an attempt to save my dear AT, I hypo my main tank... Soon, both ich were gone...n juz when I tot the nightmare was over, my blue tang started having 'white spots' that looked more like those 'stress spots' commonly found in Naso...it soon spread to most of the rest n I've to move all of them into the QT. Till date I still have no idea what it is or what's the cure... I think the lesson learned is to stick to the QT routine and be very, very, very patient in adding new fish... I'm currently running the tank with only sand and liverocks, also dosing AquaPharm Instant Bacteria Starter to rebuild the bb colony...Intend to let it run like that for at least another month to rebuild the bb colony n also get rid of any parasites left in the tank using the 'fishless' way... Pls kindly advice if I'm doing anything wrong...Thx!!

Yes, I'm restarting my tank... Two years in the marine hobby but I'm still a noob in many sense, still learning things the hard way... Nevertheless, hope u guys can give me some advices and comments about my tank. Here's the tank details: Tank Size : 4ft x 2ft x 2.3ft (12mm) Sump Size : 2.5ft x 1.5ft x 1.5ft (6mm) Return Pump : Aquamedic OR6500 Pump Skimmer : Deltec APF600 FR : TLF PhosBan Reactor 150 (ROWAphos) Lighting : Hylux 150w MH + 2 x T8 (Blue) Flow : Resun Wavemaker 15000 Chiller : Resun C650 Chiller Pump : Aquamedic OR2500 Pump UV : Coralife Turbo Twist 6X (18w)

Hi everyone! Welcome to my tank thread... After reading some of u guys' marvellous tank showcase, I'm inspired to start a tank thread of my own as well. Though it's still a long way before my tank can reach u guys' standard, I'll keep trying... Not exactly a good way to begin a new tank thread, but this is the current state of my tank...

Wow v nice collection u got there...I esp like your lineatus, brilliant colour combi... btw your blackie n PT r from the same family...won't they fight?

Bro u know how to tell between a male n female AFB?

Hi bro, wow v nice tank u have there...how's the 2 shrimps doing over there? any pictures?

That's a pity...if not it'll be great if we can breed our own fish n take less from the sea...btw any photo of the flamebacks?

Well fed by flamebacks? That muz b one of the most expensive food around.. Did u try to raise the fries? btw v nice AT u have there...

haha ya juz changed my DI unit...

Hi everyone, Here's an update of the things left for sale.. 1 x Coralife 9W UV Light (6 mths old, Japanese version from petmart) - $55 1 x TDS Meter (Brand new! Came with my crystal pro) - $40 1 x API DI Unit (Need to change cartridge) - $30 1 x Salifert Flatworm Exit (Only used 10%)- $15 3 x Waterlife Octozin (21 Tablets each) - $9 each Collection near serangoon garden area Pls PM me with your contact if interested..

Thx for all the interest..pH Meter & sixline wrasse sold n collected The rest still available...

Hi bro! of cos rem u...ps the sixline reserved liao pending collection this evening...will let u know if it's not collected... 1 x pH Meter (1 mth old) - $40 (Reserved)

Hi everyone, Here's some things I have to let go.. 1 x Coralife 9W UV Light (6 mths old, Japanese version from petmart) - $55 1 x TDS Meter (Brand new! Came with my crystal pro) - $40 1 x pH Meter (1 mth old) - $40 1 x API DI Unit (Need to change cartridge) - $30 1 x Salifert Flatworm Exit (Only used 10%)- $15 3 x Waterlife Octozin (21 Tablets each) - $9 each 1 x Sixline Wrasse (Juv) - FOC (Pls note that piority will be given to those who purchase the items above, but if the buyers don't want the sixline, it will be given to anyone else who wants it) Collection near serangoon garden area Pls PM me with your contact if interested..

Hmm....I'm not sure how u came up with the "1 year theory" but if the wrasse do eat them, I dun think they r so slow that they nid 1 year to finish them... Then again I may be wrong, n if u had previously read anything different on the internet, maybe u would like to share with all of us...

I think it should be fine for my case since I dun really have other fish...but from the link, seems like the leopard wrasse is a better choice...maybe I'll try that 1st

I dun have super eyes so I can't really c how a real ich look like...but if I compare the spots that I can c, it does look v different from the normal ich...more like the stress spots commonly found on naso... But then again maybe it's some other kind of ich that I've yet to find on the internet...Pls advice if u know of any... What puzzled me is all my other fish in the same tank, including AT n PBT (well-known ich magnets) showed no sign of ich (at least nothing that I can c thru my ###### eyes ) Anyway, the bro who bought my tang have actually seen all my fish, including the blue tang, b4 buying from me...n based on what he told me, it's doing v well in his tank now...

Thx alot bros for the tips! I go look at those places n hopefully can get my hands on one...