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thanks... like i said, i hope to rekindle the love for fishes for some of us and let the corals take a backseat for the moment

thanks ... but i opt out for the local nomination....so that other deserving local reefers can have my place.... besides...no one will vote for me anyway

eh.....look outside your window lah... now wat time....bright sunny day.... I am visiting lfs now as Bruce Wayne lah...... daytime got problems, must look for Superman At night while he is romancing Lois Lane, then Batman will take over

That's it... I am calling the Police Coast Guards

as i have told you privately..... obviously the boss ain't siding your wife or treasuring her as much as we think he should. Ask your wife to explain the situation to some of her clients who have a basis of friendship with her......let them pressure the boss to return the clients to your wife instead when she returns. "Give us Gouldian's wife or we take supplies from another company" simple as that..... to please the clients or to please the subordinate who has taken over your wife's clients.... i am sure her boss will be able to pick a choice ......quite easily.... of coz this will be acting on the end result, other bros may be able to offer suggestions to coerce/force her boss to confirm your wife's post-maternity portfolio before she hands over.

thanks guys... william, your sump is something i will try to achieve in my next system....i hope i am just too lazy to tidy up my current one

deepblue..... yeah..i was flashing this.....just to recap... Look in this direction...dun look away.... ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP all of you did not see my tank in any form or kind

robin got higher chance to linger near batcave.... as for updating, no point updating the same old fishes and stuff again and again...people get bored also. worse, some may take it that one is just flaunting that's why nowadays i spend my time in product reviews/equipment if i have the time and opportunity to do so. In this way I can still serve this Gotham city in my little own way. anyway it is better to stay low profile cos afterall, i reef for my personal satisfaction, not to gain approval from the whole community

Thanks for unearthing the article not much to learn from lah....but as with sensitive fishes....there is always a huge element of luck besides what we can humanly do for them..... so while riding on one's luck, just remember dun push it too far

i dunno about most of reefers here.... but the things that got me started and hooked on reefing were the marine fishes lor.....so my tank is centered around my fishes and corals are just 'flowervases' for the tank... whereas some reefers center their tanks around corals and fishes are their 'flowervases' different strokes for different people it is a matter of knowing what you want, stay true to your conviction and not losing your direction in this hobby while you get exposed to the wider spectrum of reefing as you go along

haha..if i remembered correctly, you, your wife and kschew were one of the last few given a small tour of the Wayne Mansion...hehehe ok lah....happy reefing guys....

thanks boss.... Wayne Mansion in Sengkang....lol Quite a number have been to the Wayne Mansion actually...our bros deepblue and danano included...hehe But ever since the Quattro was commissioned, Batcave became fully operationally ready and access to Batcave became limited to Batman and 'Alfred' only..... and in case you guys wondering who 'Alfred' is..... none other than my maid...my female 'Alfred' ...haha thanks again guys, Batman just want to roam the dark city Gotham in his dark and loner ways......there is always Superman around for you guys in the bright warm sunshine of Metropolis city

Thanks guys..... no lah....my tank standard is only *kopitiam* standard, that's why appear in kopitiam thread yeah..i also tot that the mention of the *quadruple beckett skimmer over 2m* would have given me away to iori_del as he discovered the article....but apparently not....hehe hehe...and sorry for the nasty unadulterated and absolutely filthy and messy sump you guys see in there......it is the total opposite of williammuk's sump that seems good enough to lick

No lah...in the day i am Bruce Wayne visiting lfs..... when dark falls, I am the Dark Knight watching over Gotham City...... remember to catch me this summer in the blockbuster action film.... Batman Begins

Who is Raymond Koh?? Anyway my name is Bruce...... Bruce Wayne

erhem.....

That is why for those who are not into zeovit and already doing well without it....thumbs up to you guys as you have shown that no need to resort to such gadgetry to do well And for those into zeovit, keep your chins up....since it has shown promise in your systems, learn to harness the immense potential that could either make or break your system and in time you could probably be better off with it than without it and for people like me, it is always interesting to stand by the side to watch the action, progress and alternatives to this hobby

And actually again from a bystander's point of view...... from the way i see it now....zeovit system is still in its budding stage....more so locally when local reefers have not fully grasped or harness the full potential of the system, if any. So i think it is too premature to pass a death judgement on whether zeovit is a waste of time or not..... if there are benefits that this method could render, probably it would be for the greater good in the future of this hobby for those who are into the method esp the pioneers/manufacturer of this method to keep and enhance the benefits while reducing or ultimately do away with the minus points. Every product has to go through stages of evolution and to nip it in the bud would be a waste even for a non-zeovit user like me who definitely would like to see alternative methods around even if i am not or even never use it. if everyone had felt that the only bloke who said earth was round was wasting his time trying to convince everyone when everyone's consensus was that it was flat, imagine how different our understanding of the earth would be and subsequent impacting consequences. It is true, those who are into the stock cars and spend time knowing and understanding their stock cars real well are probably ahead or way ahead of those who are modding, and they can afford to stop by on the race track, have a snigger at the blown up and smokin modded cars that can't even finish the race despite all the gadgetry stickers pasted all over the cars like ko yok (plasters ) and make statements like..... "wait till you can finish the race before you come and talk" or " i am there already (near the finishing line)....are you? " But when the technology and knowledge is mature enough, it will be easy to see why heavily modded Lemans GTRs will blaze past their street version GT cousins with no effort. Whether zeovit method is useful or waste of time....let it blossom naturally or let it die its own natural death without us passing a death sentence on it

actually from a bystander who has no sps or zeovit system...this is how i view it... the zeovit system is like the aftermarket performance parts/kits for cars.....all the gadgets and stuff that boost the performance of the car (tank)..... and as you can see...there are quite a number of car performance modding enthusiasts around (legal or not is another matter ) Some traditional drivers (reefers) prefer to hone their basic skills with their cars (tanks) without meddling in after market performance parts (like zeovit)....and boy can they fly and win races even without engaging in such gadgetry... While others who like modding and meddling with gadget (zeovit users), spend time and money getting to know the intricate details and aspects on how each part can boost his car's stock performance..... and then while there are those who excel in their knowledge and application of such gadgets that boost their cars performance, there are those that anyhow anyhow fit this and that gadget ...dun fit according to instructions..so on....and end up blowing their cars (tanks/sps) and end up blaming the gadgets (zeovit)... That is why, there are zeovit users who excel in it...just as there are those who fail miserably in it. and comes to the next question..... Will a traditional non-mod racer who spends his time on his stock car do better or worse than a mod-happy racer who spends his time trying and learning what aftermarket gadgets can do to improve his car.....it is always a race out there.....

You're the man definitely you are and will be a great help for those who need such parts/fittings.... Rocky99, you won't go wrong with weisoon here

yo bro... are u the *unofficial* VDL supplier in singapore? kidding lah...just that i am very impressed that you are well equipped and stocked up.... now i know who to look for when i need VDL stuff

Final notes This skimmer may be an end solution for those with moderate size and loading systems if this skimmer,together with other aspects of the system (LRs, DSBs and so on), gives the reefer the low residual nutrient environment that he sets out to achieve. How moderate, no one can seriously give an accurate answer just by throwing a number. Some using this skimmer may find themselves stretched and have to deal with rising nutrient levels that the skimmer and other parts of the system cannot handle and thus have to find themselves back in the market again looking for yet another skimmer.... the manufacturer says it is good for up to 1000litres....but as with all manufacturers, he does not say that behind the 1000 litres of water...how much liverocks are there, how much sandbed and how deep it is, how many fishes are there and how big are they and how often are the feedings to the system and so on... All these are the open moving variables that will greatly affect the socalled numerical capacity of any skimmer. That said, if one runs a relatively sterile reef in the first place, probably this skimmer would be even good enough for much more than 1000litres capacity in his application and he will be able to achieve a low nutrient reef. On the other hand if one runs a reef that churns up serious waste either due to heavy stocking, heavy feeding, very little nutrient reduction via LRs, DSB, macroalgae and so on, then this skimmer is probably not good enough for him for capacities much less than 1000litres. I have tried to present an objective review to this skimmer and the fact that I am not closely associated to the forum officially, I will not be seen as passing negative comments because a non-sponsor is selling this product, neither do I wax lyricals over this product because a sponsor is selling this or I have under-the-table benefits if i do so. Just a dark knight in his batcave doing his part for Gotham City.....

Brief conclusion of pumps used Sicce Extrema [2500l/hr of water flow at 0 head] + working near manufacturer's settings + lower electrical consumption + no flooding risks + less microbubbles exiting skimmer - seems abit slow/reluctant to foam up in this review, unless artifically coaxed - only top 1/3 of chamber is filled with fine bubbles Eheim 1262 [3600l/hr of water flow at 0 head] + able to overdrive the skimmer if needed + make full use of the reaction chamber + fiercer oxygenation of the water - a real risk of overflooding - may be a tad too turbulent for what the skimmer is designed for - alot of microbubbles exiting skimmer - higher electrical consumption - heats up tank water if used insump

the clip of bubble chamber density using sicce extrema (240l/hr of air) can see alot of difference compared to the eheim 1262 drawing 360l/hr of air. MOV00828.MPG

Switching over to eheim 1262 at full 360l/hr of air, the skimmer immediately starting overflowing. I had to turn off the pump, and empty the water in the collection cup back into the tank. I used the blue valve to restrict the full flow of the water into the skimmer and used it to adjust till i see the airflow at 4l/min (240l/hr) - no flooding at this setting. So while 1262 seems too powerful for the skimmer, you can definitely tame it down via the blue valve supplied with the skimmer. The sicce extrema on the other hand, while working near the manufacturer's recommended settings, seems a tad too weak to push the skimmer a little harder. One may wish to find a pump stronger than the extrema (so that you can push it alittle more) but weaker than 1262 (so that you do note waste electricity) and then use the blue valve to control the pump so that the skimmer does not overflow. I shall be attaching this clip of the bubble chamber using the eheim 1262..... and then another clip of the bubble chamber using the extrema. MOV00863.MPG