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haha..yeah lor... at most set up 2ft cube with no chiller...lol never mind lah...can offend soccer god...not betting anymore this euro

wah liew..u want flood ah

wah liew...then the room behind become suana ah.. anyway..i dun want anymore hacking...totally disruptive...all the dust fly over... next time i better drill alot of holes near the tank when i move to a new place

good luck tonight

2.30am

but the trunking will be very ugly leh..u saw for yourself...right side is the tv room area...left side is the corridor area to the rooms... either side..the trunking have to travel very very very far....jialat sia.... tat's why i told you i was thinking iceprobe....but then 2ft cube will need alot....not cost effective leh

France-France seems like an attractive bet at 4.8 odds

true also...if 400W...then 2.5 should be no problem..think i stick to 2x2x2 lah..then is a real cube but then i really got problem with the chiller placement..no place to do another cabinet to hide the chiller already weileong and deepblue, you all came over before...no more space to put another chiller...how?

going for dinner...back tonight should i go for 2.5 height since i am confined to 2x2 footprint? but i have a big problem..chiller location...u saw for yourself...i really dunno where to put the chiller for this 2ft sps tank... if this project really doesnt proceed, it's because i have problems placing the chiller...really no viable space

jie: barebottom abit not natural leh..although easy to maintain...see how lor...hehe weileong: sandbed gives a natural look leh....barebottom look abit weird also

deepblue: i believe in what i see from pictures or in real life, no point having lots of experience and nothing to show for....picture says a thousand words..as i always say your sps so nice, means you must be doing something correct to sustain them.... i have a simple approach to my 2ft sps cube.. either 250W DE or 400W SE as little fish as possible...i can put all the fishes i like in my 6ft... and keep the other parameters like calcium/alk high... with alot of light, low bioload, good parameters, should be a good start to the system waiting for the glassmaker to get back to me of a 2ft cube tank with front starphire glass....the sides i use normal glass..then can see the difference viewing from the front or the side...hehehe

ok man..thanks... in the area of sps..i really must ask you for advice

oh yeah hor... wah liew...the rest of your justice league not in there yet i think i will be keeping the H&S for my 2ft cube...wat you think deepblue? and which tunze stream should i get ah? for the 2ft cube? i think i going for super big gravel or barebottom to prevent sandstorm

hehe... thanks....i am sure there are some other nice ATs in this forum also... no lah..i think u keep to your zebrasomas..... must think for your sps also...u saw my tangs poo just now, really no joke for sps even with a beckett skimmer

thanks man, weileong.... deepblue just left my place with his wife, came to get the button coral.... he also like my AT

ok..i am thinking of the giesemann 250W pendant for my 2ft cube....hmm... wonder where is the cheapest to get it now will be selling off the current giesemann 150W....i think it's too difficult to change the ballast and lampholders from 150W to 250W myself right? ok..going out soon.... see you guys later in the day

tomorrow alot of people MC actually tonight desailly not playing is good....he may not be fast enough for the english..hehe

yeah.... what you say is correct also just that yesterday i found that by offering 8.2 odds to greece was really an indecent payout rate for me not to try my luck... i drew similarities between france and portugal due to their lack of competitive matches prior to the opening match...lack of the feeling of playing under a serious do-or-die mentality.. no matter how serious the coach tries to pysche the players for friendlies, a friendly is still a friendly and never close to a real competitive match in terms of attitude and commitment..hehe so the moral of the story is that sometimes automatic qualification due to being a host nation or being the existing champion does not always pay off...hehe luckily my guess paid off last night terry, let's talk soccer in the kopitiam...can see you support england tonight....i like both teams....but i support france slightly more this round..hehe okok..talk there talk there

i am not betting this one..but i think france will win.

oh..i think i know why i reckon it to be similar to the france disappointment at the korea/japan that you said... france automatically qualified because they were the existing champions so they did not play a competitive match prior to the senegal match right? so all the while before the senegal match they were just playing friendlies.... just like portugal, all the matches before greece were just friendlies...very long time they did not play under pressure in a competitive match.. similarly france and portugal were thrown into their first competitive match for a long time and they ended up with the same outcome, genna beaten by the other team which was deemed no hope prior to the match correct me if i am wrong terry

hehe...yeah hor.... in france they won all the way to the end right? that is france 98.... blur liao.... korea/japan was when they were expected to win but genna kick out first round without scoring a goal hor..hehe so is this the first time the host nation lose the first match? if so, then i must be very lucky anyway..i was thinking which tunze to use in a 2ft cube...let's say bare bottom to prevent sandstorm....the smallest model 6060 at 6000litres/hour issit good enough? or should i go for the 6080 at 8000litres/hour?

yeah lor.... $100 win $820 $200 win $1640 $300 win $2460.....and so on at odds of 8.2 that i bought... really reminded me of france losing to senegal at the opening match when they were host nation for world cup. that time if i am not wrong, take senegal to beat france was 10 times... $100 win $1000... that time i never bet....hehe okok..dun drift too far...back to tank...should be slowly buying equipment soon

wah liew...2ft cube haven't done yet carry sps home for wat? lol.... do liao the 2ft cube still must wait long long before put sps ... by then liao...hehe no lah...where got bet thousands...lol i bought at odds 8.2 let's just put it as my beckett project and 2ft cube project has been fully paid for by the greeks... hail the greek gods

anyway, for those who bet big....try to split your tickets... so that each ticket winning dun exceed $5k... otherwise for that one single ticket that you win $5k..u gotta go to their office and wait for long queue... worst is that you won the match on friday and you gotta hold on the ticket on saturday and sunday before their office open on monday then you can cash your winning ticket so, moral of the story is to split your bets if you know the ticket will yield winnings over $5k

yeah..france vs england is a final-worthy match... france coz we know how good they are...and england coz we are great EPL fans..hehe