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There's no such thing as ich free. Ich either is present in the water,rocks and/or the body of the fish itself. Either way, there's no way to get rid of ich totally except to sterilize everything, including all the fishes. Ich may appear when the fish is weak or stressed. To reduce occurrence of ich is to keep the fish very healthy so as to keep its immune system at its peak

Acetic acid is vinegar, ascorbic acid is vitamin c. Acetic acid is more stable than vitamin c. Zeolite provides no carbon source. It is a natural ion exchanger. It binds ammonia (assuming you are talking about those for aquarium filtration usage as there's hundreds of types of zeolites that can bind many different stufs) to its surface. Since it is porous, it supports bacteria population easily. The bacteria colonises the surface, using the ammonia which is bound on the surface. The bacteria produces nitrite which is used by another group of bacteria, which converts it to nitrate. Deeper in the zeolite, a less aerobic environment exists. Another group of bacteria living there converts nitrate to nitrogen. That is totally different from what I am trying to do

Are you doing ulns or zeovit?

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Used to. Now sometimes. Lab coat though, not space suit for me, haha

Skim mate. Looks not as bad as I expected

Tank got raided last night. All livestocks gone. Luckily, I was provided with monetary compensation, It would seem that testing out the effects of the solid acetic acid on the pH/alkalinity would require constant monitoring. Hence, I will be able to only test it on weekends. For now, it is a good opportunity to test out the stability of the vinegar against oxidation during storage. The test on freshwater showed no degradation of the polymer matrix during prolonged immersion in water. It would seem to me that I have to make a decision between a non-dissolvable solid or a gradual dissolvable solid. For the first choice, users would need to regularly remove the solids and replace with new ones. For the second choice, users would need to only add in new ones. However, for the second choice, the skimmer maintenance would have to be stepped up rather dramatically.

The carbon source is actually the polymer. Leeching does not mean you must see something to tell it is leeching. It is analogous to that BPA is leeched from plastic bottles, you do not need to see pieces of plastic floating around in the bottle before saying it is leeching. If it melts and mixes with water, it is already leeching. Pardon if I was not clear previously. My definition of leeching is the transfer of materials from the original source to a different location other than the original source. The reason why skimmers work better when dosing carbon is simply because they have more stuff to skim out, which is your increased bacteria population. By skimming out the bacteria, whatever the bacteria used (nitrate and phosphate) is exported out of the system. Even if the bacteria dies, it would not be degraded back to nitrate and phosphate. I am trying to test if the polymer I used to hold the vinegar can be skimmed out by the skimmer, if not, I will get a tank full of the dissolved polymer. The polymer I am using should be harmless, it is from a marine organism source anyway. My intention is to have the system having the reactor connecting to skimmer. The increased bacteria population and the dissolved polymer would be skimmed out by the skimmer before it hits the tank. That should provide for a minimal contamination of carbon into the tank.

yes, I believe they should if you are so concerned about the animal's well being. they do conduct experiments too. bro, do you know exactly how much to add? do you often attempt to ramp up the dosing? isn't that experimenting with the dosing? for most products, not to say they are no good, they are just not doing much. feeling pain is a survival instinct. there's no such thing as confirmed compatibility. different fish has different personality. I do not believe white mouse are bred for experiment. no organism has evolved for this purpose. white mouse is bred for specific traits, same like your pedigree dogs, your special clown fishes, etc. it is just that they selected the traits meant to keep it easy for the researchers to work on. are you trying to tell me once I start breeding my fishes and corals, I can literally use them for all sorts of experiments? ethical issues in the use of animals in research work has been around for hundreds of years and there's still not much being done. I don't think this forum is for the discussion of such topics. Let's not digress too far. I believe you just admitted to conducting experiments ( I admit I always buy weird fishes that are difficult to get feeding and some i managed to keep alive and some died but there are previous evidences and sources that show success...) I partially agree that my experiments can be conducted with no livestock, which I always do. I just did not post the steps and the results as for that particular case, the results have little value. All of my experiments are always conducted with the simplest, possible environment before scaling up (usually just water in a container). This is part and parcel of science, starting your testing with simplest setup to remove all possible interferences and complications. I will be more than happy to continue using no livestock when scaling up my experiments if I decide to keep a reef tank that is just a 1.5L of unopened distilled water without adding anything to it. Please do search the Internet. Most solid waste are dumped in landfill or incinerated. Most non-hazardous liquid waste goes into the ocean. I never say a nano is not, both are. I kept huge tanks before. It's just that I took a tiny piece, and you are literally screaming. People who take a huge piece, you are going to start a riot? haha. I don't think you participated in reef forums often enough. There's literally tons of reefers doing experiments. There's actually not enough research and case studies, for your information. Marine biology and the reactions in the water is still not very well-understood by both scientists and aquarists alike. It is extremely complex. You don't need a permit to conduct such research unless you are using CITES listed organisms. Which in that case, you need a CITES license to acquire the specimens. Not valid? Who was the first to place a marine fish into a tank? Who was the first to place a coral into a tank? Who was the first to use pumps to simulate waves? Who was the first to use limewater and baking powder as an additive to the tank? Who was the first to attempted to skim the water? Who was the first to dose sugar, vodka, vinegar and all sorts of strange stuff into the water? The answer to them all is aquarists, people like us. Although I do admit some of the aquarists are scientists, but they keep aquariums for personal interest. The research field for aquatic science is rather small and the funding rather limited as compared to other fields. That's what I like about this field is simply the fact that there's a tremendous flow of information and ideas between the researchers and aquarists. There's no need for a scientific validation before aquarists and companies start jumping into the bandwagon. Let's take biopellets as an example. It is only recently that there's a group of researchers investigating the effectiveness of biopellets. That's way after biopellets are selling like hotcakes with many different brands.

That depends on your definition of a scientist, haha

Technically they should. Pain is just a sensation to a possibly harmful stimulus. With that sensation comes a withdrawal response. Stress is usually followed by the sensation due to the activation of the "fight or flight" mechanism. If you poke a fish with a needle , it technically acts like how a human reacts when he is poked by a needle. The scientific community is still in debate with regards to this issue with recent evidence suggesting that fishes do have a well developed nerve sensory system.

In labs, they usually place fish in freezer. The slowly declining temperatures will render fish less active,then unconscious and finally killing it after. Fish are cold-blooded, they shouldn't feel cold.

Do I get it too for being a busy body and agreeing? Haha

Agree. Put a reef angel in a worst tank of the tank and it may become best tank of the month

looking for IceProbe Aquarium Chiller too

Nice mod

Bro, the pieces that died came from lfs? I think they are more than happy. If you realised, literally most deaths are caused by human factors (ignorance, errors, negligence). For every reefer, there's at least a death under his/her belt. If it really pains you, you shouldn't be here, you should leave it to the expert (mother nature) and stick with nat geo or bbc? Every tank is an experiment. How many times have we decided to play "god" and decided to go for a wc, add additives, having parameters not found in nature? Be it novice or experts, sometimes, our decisions may cause some death or torture to the specimens. How many times have we caused adverse reactions to them? We withdraw our hands when we feel pain. Imagine when the corals are withdrawing their polyps, this is exactly what they felt. I am only being conscious enough to admit I am conducting an experiment(conscious in the sense that I know i am playing "god", trying out something and hoping for good results). Every reefer is doing experiment every single time they add or remove something in their tank, be it lifestock, additives, water, equipment, etc. By supporting the lfs, we are supporting killing. There's bound to be death in every batch of livestocks. For every captive breeding experiment, there's bound to be death. For every coral food you feed, the manufacturers have to ditch tons of nutritious waste into the ocean, leading to possible death in reefs near the discharge. The best home is in the oceans, my friend. If you really feel the way you described, please do give up your tank(s) and stick to documentaries. I know of a few armchair reefers, and I do respect them, a lot. Sorry if I sounded mean, that's hard, cold facts.To add on, sometimes when I see reefers having those huge tanks, i begin to think why is there a piece of ocean in the wrong place? That piece could have been in the ocean and contributing to the ecology beneficially. By being on land, they are using more than necessary resources to be alive, leading to further ecological destruction. I am not noble, and I do not admit that I am, in any sense, noble. What i am doing may seem cruel to you. I cannot deny that. Please take a pause, step back and see that everyone of us is equally cruel and doing exactly what I am doing. Most just didn't tag it as experiment.

bro, thanks for your hns

woah, nice sales

Thanks, we are all lucky to be existing and breathing