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Actually no leh... couples who works together PAYS TOGETHER! LOL... no one to control! Anyway, cabinet and tank is up... piping 95% done, chiller and sump is in... Desi will prob post the pictures shortly..

Hmm... lemme guess... from Iwarna hawaiian shipment? I saw they have so many YT!

Hi Fuzzy Thanks for the suggestions! Ya, i think i will have to put in the fibreglass and egg crate 1st before adding live sand/NSW. Btw, any difference if i add in livesand or NSW 1st? Will the bateria die off if i just pour in Livesand and then cover it with NSW?

If only 1 pack, why not mix it yourselves? You can try victor (Iwarna) at 92259393 but not sure if he will deliver so little.

Touch WOOD>> Won't leak la!

hi Macrobutt, thanks for the offer... regardless of need help or not, can always come and see tank la! LOL... Ya, i also wish to cut short the cycling process if possible but thats not the main reason for us to use live sand/live rock and NSW.. I chose live sand because it suppose to have high concentration of biofilm baterias... something like 10m/pound Also, for vanity reason as i love the look of black sand and DSB! LOL Live rock, honestly, we also using very little as we again decided to purchase 3 pieces of fibreglass rocks as it looks better, have more nooks and crevices for fishes/coral placement. NSW - one word, LAZY! haha.. when i think of making like 700 litres of water.. i already wanna faint liaoz.. not to mentioned waiting for RO/DI unit, mix salt, carry water by pail.. in contrast, NSW from Iwarna is affordable and convenient.. I totally agree with you on ZERO casualty... but knowing Desi... she wont be able to resist the temptation.. u guys must help me JAGAR and not POISON her go GO or other LFS!

Okies... Well, intention is to fill part of the tank, see got leaks or not then put in more live rocks/live sand and water... I think live sand and live rock also need enough water level to cover it at least right? As for clean up crew, yeah, will buy some 1st.. The reason why i split it is that i intend to buy more when more livestock is added Also, i worry the clean up crew got nothing to do/eat! LOL Biohome... sounds familar... i bought the bateria culture tablet from AM already... so prob will try that 1st As for the sequence.. i think the tank maker designed it that way too.. but not 100% sure as i leave it to him to design.. just told him we wanted the sump to incorporate an area for refrigum.

Hmm... prob wont get the big star fishes la... most likely just some small star fishes.. 1-2 inches type max i think.. Will think of the clean up crew while cycling:P Thanks for the advice!

Yups... will bear this in mind..

Hmm.... i know that we shd avoid turning the DSB drastically but based on my knowledge.. using sand shifters and snails all these will help to loosen the DSB, which is beneficial..

I getting from Iwarna.. u can pm or call Victor directly

oh... another reason i can think of to add water 1st (at least partially) is that it will not slosh the sand and rocks all over the place.. practical reason, i guess

Hi Goondoo, No problem abt Hijacking as we are all here to learn I think why water is added before sand is not really an issue as the "cloud" will settle anyway before the cycling period is over. Also, i know that some reefers suggest to make use of this CLOUD to turn on the wavemakers etc to see the water flow As for why Live Sand before Live rock, that one i read is because live sand may cover the porous Live rock and thus kill off the Live rock... if you using Dead Rock i guess it is not relevant except you may need to shake of the sand during aquascaping. ketchup...

Hi all fellow reef kakis Thanks Lemon Lemon for the Cycling write up.. i find it very useful! Just a noobie question... we are setting up a new 4ft tank and we have the following... but i am just wondering what is the recommended sequence... Live sand - we have enough for about 4-5 inches of DSB. We have bought live black sand from both caribsea and NO as it is different in sizes. We intend to use NO at bottom, abt 2/3 (finer grade) then caribsea (abt 1/3) on top. Live Rock - We are using about 20+ kg of live rocks as we have 3 big pieces of Fibreglass Rock. We may add some smaller pieces as we progress. Fibreglass rock - We have 3 big pieces of this, which i understand do not help cycling process. Water - NSW - We have placed an order for NSW from Iwarna. Roughly our plan is as follows: 1) Pour in the NSW 2) Pour in the NO sand to form the base layer of DSB 3) Put in the Fibreglass (tied to a large sheet of egg crate) 4) Pour in remaining Caribsea sand to cover the egg crate and create some different height of sand at different area to prevent detritus build up. 5) Stack the Live rocks on top of the egg crate and sand 6) Cycle the tank with Live Prawns (2-3/gallon, according to some website guide) 7) Cycle the tank, Aquascape as we go along 8) Cycle complete 9) Do a major (50%) water change with NSW or Salt water (prob salt mix + RO water using the Crystal Pro) 10) Finalise Aquascape 11) Add in some corals 12) Add some clean up crews - snails, sand shifters 13) Add in some fishes 14) Repeat and add in corals, fishes and clean up crew slowly while monitoring the water parameters. Oh yes... we have a sump and we will just fill it with some sand (which we will rinse) and top up with NSW and dose it with some bateria culture tablet. We will also throw in a couple of rocks (not big and not so nice ones) from our existing 2 ft tank inside. In future, we hope to cultivate some cheato or the other marine plant that tangs eats... Can't rem the name now. Are the steps correct and are we missing somethin?

Hihi... We stay in AMK, very near the YCK MRT, walking distance From now till end Jan i expect us to be very busy with work/tank... but will try and update the thread with pics and stuffs! Next up... Cabinet and tank set up ... ETA 29/30th Dec!

May be interested in this... let me check and get back to u hor

ahh.. too bad, my new tank only come in next week... maybe next batch i reserve can? Mid to End Jan.. cos still need to cycle tank also.

$8 only... so cheap ah... i saw some nice ones at CF but they selling S$80 for the small ones

ahh.. didnt see this thread... we were out looking at livestocks and stuffs at GO, AM, CF and even Qianhu Maybe next outing!

1) kikobananas (Bishan) 2) Stevenkoh08 (Woodland) 3) Ketchup and Desideria (AMK) Seems like North side is devoid of reefers! lol... Perhaps it's because all the LFS are in EAST/NORTHWEST area?

Hi iskay... Thanks for your response... If assuming that i have say 4 inches of live sand plus a small refrigum (with some live rocks) then i should be ok as the livesand and the live rocks (in refrigum and maybe a couple of pieces in main tank) will help in housing the bacteria?

Hi fellow reef kakis... Has anyone has fibreglass rocks for rockscaping? I seen it and think it looks great and have nice structure and it's relatively much lighter than Live rock. Also, it does not have all the parasites of liverocks.. Hence i am comtemplating using it fully or maybe partially for our new 4 ft tank. Anyone has knowledge of this, please kindly share Cheers!

Nice work on the rocks... seems like a lot of rocks for your tank size? u having a huge refrigum ah?

Nice update... will keep track as we starting a 4ft tank of the same size

Wonderful personality he has... even borrowed comic books and don;t return! LOL