Jaubert Plenum System

[May&Bruce]

Do any reefers out there use a Jaubert plenum system in their tanks? I have set up one for my 5 foot reef tank and would like to share ideas benefits, etc., with pthers.

[angelfish]

i had plenum in my 4', but seems not working

[May&Bruce]

angelfish...how long was it up and running and why do you think it is not working? NO3 too high?

[Gouldian]

Actually anyone ever wonder why most Public Aquariums are still using Plenums?

And why FAMA magazine still have one dedicated section called Sand Mail by Bob Goeman?

I believe the natural filtration methods still holds water!

Just that it may not be the flavour at this moment in Singapore.

[Tigger]

trend in sgp now is bb

[Gouldian]

trend in sgp now is bb

That's correct bro!

But I believe most that went BB are those that embraces Zeovit as well and they have the results to show.

What worries me are those that go BB without Zeovit. I dunno but I from my limited knowledge BB without Zeovit is just Berlin. And I can still remembers Berlin days whereby most of us struggles with NO3. Correct me if I am wrong, I am ignorant sometimes.

[Terryz_]

I am using plenum in my system... It seems to be maturing... A lot of gas bubble... Didnt take the NO3 reading... Haven got my test kit...

[Blenny]

Am also running a plenum on an external 2.5ft tank. Noticed that water NO3 improved lately after 6 months of installation. Had a DSB using 0 grade sand in a 4 ft fiberglass tank before adding plenum. NO3 always remain at 20ppm using salifert but now can go to 0.2 or lower.

[Tigger]

can u show a pics of yr plenum. I have dsb and its 2 years old liao. but hor i m not sure if its working anot.

[Terryz_]

That's correct bro!

But I believe most that went BB are those that embraces Zeovit as well and they have the results to show.

What worries me are those that go BB without Zeovit. I dunno but I from my limited knowledge BB without Zeovit is just Berlin. And I can still remembers Berlin days whereby most of us struggles with NO3. Correct me if I am wrong, I am ignorant sometimes.

I dunno about other but i feel that if you have nutrient export using Macroalgae,, you can still keep NO3 under control... Provided you prune regularly...

Correct me if i am wrong...

[Gouldian]

I dunno about other but i feel that if you have nutrient export using Macroalgae,, you can still keep NO3 under control... Provided you prune regularly...

Correct me if i am wrong...

Yah loh, thats why we have evolved into Plenum, DSB and Refugium after Berlin.

And that's why I dun understand the BB without Zeovit part.

[tineng]

Yah loh, thats why we have evolved into Plenum, DSB and Refugium after Berlin.

And that's why I dun understand the BB without Zeovit part.

BB with zeovit.....thats pure berlin method

[Terryz_]

Yah loh, thats why we have evolved into Plenum, DSB and Refugium after Berlin.

And that's why I dun understand the BB without Zeovit part.

Orh... You mean BB without Refuge and Zeovit huh... It is difficult to keep NO3 under control in that case... But i think most ppl going BB at least have a Refuge for nutrient export or uses Zeovit bah...

Not a fan of BB... lol... So dunno much about how it works..

[weileong]

Berlin in the past have problem with NO3 because they don't have so good skimmers then.

Now with good skimmers, NO3 are less headache.

[RAV-65]

I'm using Plenum... have a strong skimmer running and my no3 is undetectable...

However, my plenum is only 8 months old...

[Tigger]

Sorry, go off topic. May I know which test kit is accurate for NO3. I m using Aqualight, the shade of blue for 20-40ppm very difficult to differential.

[May&Bruce]

here is a pic of the plenum support.

[May&Bruce]

With 6 inches of sand - lower 3 inches is coarse sand 3-4 mm, upper layer is fine sand.

[May&Bruce]

Tank has now been running for about 3.5 months. NO3 is below 10. Am using a good sized Ocean Werx beckett skimmer.

[Gouldian]

Berlin in the past have problem with NO3 because they don't have so good skimmers then.

Now with good skimmers, NO3 are less headache.

So WL and Tineng,

Do your guys think that The New Improved Berlin (Zeovit) method is good even for LPS?

I have read somewhere that Zeovit method actually create a low nutrients environment that is very good for SPS but may not be that good for LPS or Softies.

I mean, I totally am convinced what Zeovit can do for a SPS tank, but a little sceptical of Zeovit applied to a Mixed reef dominated by LPS, Softies & Fishes.

What do you guys think?

[aquabeAnz]

sorry maybe off topic?

can i rescape by using chips for the bottom of the tank?

[chtan23]

here is a pic of the plenum support.

Hi May&Bruce,

What did you put on the support before adding sand?

[May&Bruce]

Hey chtan23

We put a layer of that plastic fine mesh that the equipment shops sell (it has about 1mm holes). As we put a layer of coars sand down first, the mesh is perfect. Then we put another layer of the same mesh on top of the coarse sand before we put a layer of finer sand on top (to stop troublesome fish fromburrowing right through...)

[chtan23]

Hey chtan23

We put a layer of that plastic fine mesh that the equipment shops sell (it has about 1mm holes). As we put a layer of coars sand down first, the mesh is perfect. Then we put another layer of the same mesh on top of the coarse sand before we put a layer of finer sand on top (to stop troublesome fish fromburrowing right through...)

Can tell me which shop you get it from? if not convenient, pm me. thanks!

[weileong]

I have read somewhere that Zeovit method actually create a low nutrients environment that is very good for SPS but may not be that good for LPS or Softies.

I mean, I totally am convinced what Zeovit can do for a SPS tank, but a little sceptical of Zeovit applied to a Mixed reef dominated by LPS, Softies & Fishes.

Judging from the way my rics and other LPS grow, I guess zeovit has no problems with softies and LPS.